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Post by Trader J on Aug 21, 2007 19:27:32 GMT -5
Yeah, they neatly avoided that era. I've heard that the band isn't real fond of that era. Shirley, I've heard, is especially willing to forget the BG days. |
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Post by oscillations. on Aug 21, 2007 21:30:53 GMT -5
I can understand why, though. I mean, EVERYTHING went wrong for them in that era. Sickness, fighting, commercial disappointment, mixed response to new material. It's like they were on top of the world for 5 years & it all came crashing down. Even though BLM technically sold about the same, it's going to be remembered overall as a more successful era because of a.) context (the chart positions, the fact that WDYLM WAS a definite hit) b.) lowered expectations c.) self-handicapping. We can debate forever about what COULD have happened with BLM had they chosen to promote it longer, because there is the sense that they themselves cut that era short & could have taken it further. There was little doubt with BG that it had run its course & that it couldn't have been extended any further (although the ND tour was probably a wise decision).
Anyway, I think they choose to blot that era out of their memories the same way families often selectively remember & forget certain trying periods because of divorce, sickness, financial stress, etc.
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Post by Modern Method. on Aug 22, 2007 4:09:13 GMT -5
I can understand why, though. I mean, EVERYTHING went wrong for them in that era. Sickness, fighting, commercial disappointment, mixed response to new material. It's like they were on top of the world for 5 years & it all came crashing down. Even though BLM technically sold about the same, it's going to be remembered overall as a more successful era because of a.) context (the chart positions, the fact that WDYLM WAS a definite hit) b.) lowered expectations c.) self-handicapping. We can debate forever about what COULD have happened with BLM had they chosen to promote it longer, because there is the sense that they themselves cut that era short & could have taken it further. There was little doubt with BG that it had run its course & that it couldn't have been extended any further (although the ND tour was probably a wise decision). Anyway, I think they choose to blot that era out of their memories the same way families often selectively remember & forget certain trying periods because of divorce, sickness, financial stress, etc. I think you hit the nail on the head! Or maybe, backstage footage wasn't really recorded during that era. |
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Post by happyhome on Aug 22, 2007 21:59:50 GMT -5
BG era is probably my least favorite so I'm fine with it not being focused on.
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Post by tetherednchained on Aug 22, 2007 22:59:10 GMT -5
BG era is probably my least favorite so I'm fine with it not being focused on. I feel the same way and I believe the majority of hard core G fans that were there before BG would say the same thing. I'm not saying the BG days were bad just that they went way, way, far away from what we as G fans were use to. Quite frankly BG was a shock to me when I first heard it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2007 0:07:21 GMT -5
^^^ not all hardcore fans feel the same.....bg is my fave era...but I suppose thats just becasue thats the era I came to know them
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Post by thepowkid on Aug 23, 2007 0:31:38 GMT -5
if it wasn't for the beautifulgarbage i would most likely would have never gotten into garbage
and not to mention beautifulgarbage is like my fave album by them
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Post by Red Hot Kitchen on Aug 23, 2007 0:37:53 GMT -5
I am most definitely a fan of BG, but I have to agree. It's definitely not their strongest work.
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Post by stef19 on Aug 23, 2007 1:19:30 GMT -5
if it wasn't for the beautifulgarbage i would most likely would have never gotten into garbage and not to mention beautifulgarbage is like my fave album by them Right there with you. If it wasn't for BG I don't think I would be the fan I am today...I love that album and I think the band should be damn proud of it. Yeah it was different, but different is never a bad thing!  |
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Post by Trader J on Aug 23, 2007 5:23:18 GMT -5
BG era is probably my least favorite so I'm fine with it not being focused on. I agree 100%! From a live collecting standpoint, the BG era is the MOST documented in both audio and video. Nearly every single concert was recorded in either video or audio. I think I have about 20 or so BG era concerts on DVD, including several pro-shots. That's enough to last me a lifetime, so if Garbage never, ever releases any live or backstage footage from the BG era, I am more than fine with it. I too was shocked the first time I heard BG. It wasn't so much that I didn't like it as that it sounded so different from what I came to expect from G. Even though I'm not very fond of most of the songs from BG, I still like a few. |
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Post by Modern Method. on Aug 23, 2007 7:24:29 GMT -5
I still remember listening to the opening riff of 'Shut Your Mouth' and my jaw dropping!
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Post by Modern Method. on Aug 23, 2007 7:29:46 GMT -5
I GOT MINE THIS MORNING!!!! YAYYYY!!!
Now I'm off to watch it and savour every moment! haha
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Post by Tornado on Aug 24, 2007 6:09:45 GMT -5
still nothing!  |
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Post by Garbage Addict on Aug 24, 2007 6:42:32 GMT -5
I got into Garbage the summer prior to BG being relased - my friend taped me Version 2.0 I fell in love with it but Bg coming out really got me hooked I soon had the debut after that and everything - saw them in 2002 In Wolverhampton and I was completely hooked. I too think had that record not come out wen I got into them I dont think i would be nearly as hooked on Garbage as I am now or perhaps it would have taken me alot longer to get to the level of fandom I currently reside in lol. As for the record - its left out the DVD but Butch said BG era wasnt well documented esp in the States where people didnt want to know as in TV/Radio etc compared with BLM where they got more exposure .. I do think its down to content being available and the band themselves looking back on that era. I personally fell in love with BG when it came out I latched onto anything Garbage at the time. I still love most of the album today and Id go as far as saying i think despite the weaker songs its a stronger album than BLM. Ive steady grown to dislike much of BLM even though 5 songs id say i think are great like WDYLM.
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Post by Modern Method. on Aug 24, 2007 7:33:58 GMT -5
still nothing! patience is the key. |
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Post by Tornado on Aug 24, 2007 7:43:38 GMT -5
still nothing! patience is the key. it's easy to you to say that when you've got the dvd ;D |
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Post by Modern Method. on Aug 24, 2007 8:31:28 GMT -5
it's easy to you to say that when you've got the dvd ;D haha...true! |
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Post by Dance Away on Aug 25, 2007 9:53:07 GMT -5
The popularity of any band that chooses not to change its sound is not long lived.
Example: the popularity of the band Boston died out because it chose not to change its sound.
Example: the popularity of the band U2 is still alive today because it did choose to change its sound.
And I've read recently that Butch said that the next Garbage album (next year?) will be offering another new sound change for the band.
So the BG era was not a mistake for this band. They had to do it in order to keep the creative process new and fresh for the members of the band and for us fans. And you can expect Garbage to be making another sound change again in their next album.
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Post by yoshigirl on Aug 25, 2007 14:24:15 GMT -5
I got the dvd in HV today... brilliant end to a long, happy shopping trip.
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Post by yoshigirl on Aug 25, 2007 14:25:20 GMT -5
That meant to say HMV.
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