Now.. for piercing your child's ears.. there's two ways to go. I do understand that you just get it done and over with, but at the same time, I think maybe it's best if you let the child decide, you know? My mom decided for me, and I can't stand it, lol. I never liked to wear earrings, and I still don't like it. If she would have asked me, I probably would've said no. But anyway. It's there and I'm not dead, so whatev. It's a tricky situation, so I'm not ENTIRELY sure on where I am with this one yet. What do you think?
Hmmm, I never really thought about this till you brought it up. My mom had my ears pierced when I was a baby. I've never viewed it as something wrong, I guess because it's done so often in my culture. I would have gotten them pierced eventually, but I guess it seems only right to let the child decide later on if they want to do it or not.
CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri called President Bush a failure and a liar in the war on terror in a video statement released Friday, and he compared Pope Benedict XVI to the 11th century pontiff who launched the First Crusade.
"Can't you be honest at least once in your life, and admit that you are a deceitful liar who intentionally deceived your nation when you drove them to war in Iraq?" Osama bin Laden's deputy said, appearing in front of a standing lamp and a small, decorative cannon.
Al-Zawahri also criticized Bush for continuing to imprison al-Qaida leaders in prisons, including al-Qaida No. 3 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged Sept. 11 mastermind who was captured in Pakistan in March 2003.
"Bush, you deceitful charlatan, 3 1/2 years have passed since your capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, so how have you found us during this time? Losing and surrendering? Or are we launching attacks with God's help and becoming martyrs?" he said.
"What you have perpetrated against Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the other Muslim captives in your prisons and the prisons of your slaves in Egypt, Jordan, Pakistan and elsewhere is not hidden from anyone, and we are a people who do not sleep under oppression and who do not abandon our revenge until our chests have been healed of those who have committed aggression against us," he said.
"And we, by the grace of Allah, are seeking to exact revenge on behalf of Islam and Muslims from you and your soldiers and allies."
Al-Zawahri accused the United States and its agents of torturing Muslim prisoners seized across the Middle East.
"Your agents in the Arabian Peninsula, Yemen, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan have captured thousands of the youth and soldiers of Islam whom you made to taste at your hands and the hands of your agents various types of punishment and torture," al-Zawahri said.
Ben Venzke, head of the Virginia-based IntelCenter, which monitors terrorism communications, said al-Zawahri essentially gave al-Qaida's spin on the arrests and detentions of its leaders.
"They are countering arguments that individuals have been able to provide useful information," he said. "And they are continuing to reinforce their intentions for revenge."
Al-Zawahri said Benedict is reminiscent of Pope Urban II, who in 1095 ordered the First Crusade to establish Christian control in the Holy Land.
"This charlatan Benedict brings back to our memories the speech of his predecessor charlatan Urban II in the 11th century ... in which he instigated Europeans to fight Muslims and launch the Crusades because he (Urban) claimed 'atheist Muslims, the enemies of Christ' are attacking the tomb of Jesus Christ, peace be upon him," al-Zawahri said.
Al-Zawahri's remarks about Benedict were a clear response to the pontiff's comments this month that sparked outrage across the Muslim world. In that speech, Benedict cited a Byzantine emperor who characterized some of the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad as "evil and inhuman," particularly "his command to spread by the sword the faith."
"If Benedict attacked us, we will respond to his insults with good things. We will call upon him and all of the Christians to become Muslims who do not recognize the Trinity or the crucifixion," al-Zawahri said.
Al-Zawahri also called a U.N. resolution to send peacekeepers into Sudan's war-torn Darfur region a "Crusader plan" and implored the Muslims of Darfur to defend themselves.
"There is a Crusader plan to send Crusaders forces to Darfur that is about to become a new field of the Crusades war. Oh, nation of Islam, rise up to defend your land from the Crusaders aggression who are coming wearing United Nations masks," he said. "No one will defend you (Darfur) but a popular holy war."
The nearly 18-minute statement, titled "Bush, the Pope, Darfur and the Crusades," was produced by al-Qaida's media arm, as-Sahab, and made available by the IntelCenter. An initial segment shows al-Zawahri in an office-type setting, while in the second part he is in front of a brown backdrop. The first segment also has English subtitles.
After conducting a technical analysis of the videotape, the CIA concluded "with confidence" that the speaker is in fact Ayman al-Zawahri, said a CIA spokesperson who spoke on condition of anonymity
An intelligence official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, said U.S. experts view the latest video as a typical propaganda message, whose main thrust is a call for more people to join the jihad, or holy war.
It wasn't immediately clear when the message was recorded, the official said, but al-Zawahri's reference to the pope indicated the message was produced sometime after Benedict's Sept. 12 comments about Islam.
Al-Qaida has released a string of videos to coincide with the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, showing increasingly sophisticated production techniques in a likely effort to demonstrate that it remains a powerful, confident force despite the U.S.-led war on terror.
The IntelCenter said Friday's video was the 48th released by the al-Qaida Web site this year, three times more than last year's number — which had been the highest. It said al-Zawahri has appeared in 14 of the 2006 videos.
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Post by Madame Shimmy on Oct 5, 2006 9:34:33 GMT -5
This whole thing is such a huge mess. With NO way to be undone. Either way America goes were damned if we do and damned if we don't. If we stay in Iraq, America will be an imperilalist country. If we leave we have to worry about not having left Iraq with solid infrastructures. (schools, water, police force....).
As for the whole war on terror. Bush and his cabinent members made a decision on very bad information. I think Bush and his members said hey, terrorists use WMD to kill people and there are WMD in Iraq so lets kill two birds with one stone. We'll invade Afghanastan where Al Qaida is and take out WND in Iraq. Unfortunatley, it turns out there were NO WMD as Bush was TOLD. You can only work with what you have. The public will never know the truth about the WMD reports because there will always be conflicting reports. Republicans believe republicans and democrats believe democrats. Plain and simple. No need to over analyse this fact.
Now, did Condi really know that terrorist were going to attack America? Again, we will never know the truth. We can believe that ANY American with that information would share it with the President to prevent the death of innocent Americans. She was appointed by Bush for her position so there is no need for her to try and ruin his presidency by not sharing the "so called" terror warning.
I have something that I would love to hear your input on I have another thread that's kind of about this but I figured it would be more suited for this thread
This expert is from the Colorado Blue Book of amendments for the November 7th elections. Now there has been a lot of controversy on what it said in the Blue book because it talked about giving it to a person aged 15 and older. That is not true. You have to be 21. Thankfully it seems that the mistake has been corrected here.
Amendment 44 Colorado Legislative Council Staff FISCAL IMPACT STATEMENT Date: August 29, 2006 Fiscal Analyst: Gary J. Estenson — 303-866-4976 BALLOT TITLE: AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION 18-18-406 (1) OF THE COLORADO REVISED STATUTES MAKING LEGAL THE POSSESSION OF ONE OUNCE OR LESS OF MARIJUANA FOR ANY PERSON TWENTY-ONE YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER.
Summary of Amendment
Under current law, any person possessing one ounce or less of marijuana is guilty of a Class 2 petty offense and is subject to a fine of up to $100. This amendment decriminalizes the possession of this amount of marijuana for persons 21 and older, making the crime applicable only to people under 21.
Fine revenue may be reduced since fines would no longer be assessed against adults who possess one ounce or less of marijuana. However, any change in fine revenue cannot be quantified because the total number of persons convicted of this Class 2 petty offense is unknown. Currently, the state only tracks data on petty offense convictions in state court when a person is also charged with a more serious misdemeanor or felony crime. It does not track data on petty offense convictions in municipal court. In addition, judges have discretion when assessing fines, not all offenders are assessed the maximum $100 fine, and some fines go uncollected. As a result, any reduction in fine revenue for possessing one ounce or less of marijuana cannot be estimated.
The proposal will not affect state spending. The courts' workload will not be affected because persons charged with marijuana possession typically appear in state court on other charges. Similarly, the Department of Public Safety will not be impacted since state law enforcement officers typically only search a person for marijuana possession after having probable cause that another offense has been committed. Finally, the Department of Corrections will not be affected because the penalty for possession of one ounce or less of marijuana does not include incarceration in a state prison.
Local Government Impact
Since municipal and county governments retain a portion of fines collected for criminal violations, this amendment will result in a minimal reduction in local government revenue. It is estimated that the amendment will not impact local government spending for the same reasons it will not affect state government spending. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So my question is: If you lived in Colorado, would you vote yes or no on 44 and why?
Post by Madame Shimmy on Oct 5, 2006 12:55:57 GMT -5
I would vote no. It is a contradiction to itself. You can't possibly put an age limit on the right to carry an ounce or less of marijuana or any amount for that matter. People get so caught up in the idea that if it is legalized it will make the problem go away. WRONG. It will only make it worse. It would open up alot of doors for young kids that shouldn't ever be opened period.
Lets say for example that I am a single mother working hard to care for my child and I am also at the begining of an addiction problem because I am a stripper at the local titty bar. This new law would allow me to carry a certain amount of drugs and not have to worry about the repricutions (sp?). I would be setting the WORST possible example for my child.
This law would be telling children that it is OK to be involved in drugs when you are 21 or older. Drugs of any sort are a danger and I would not want to live where it would be legalized.
The amendment 44 may be considered vanguard in terms of decriminalize so-called "inoffensive" conducts.
Some States worldwide have been assuming the position to only criminalize serious conducts; they are attempting to decrease the number of prisioners. Which is good, 'cause at least in my country someone who committed a felony may share the same jail with a person who committed a petty offense.
I still dont have an opinion about amendment 44... is there anyone from Netherland around to tell us if decriminalization of marijuana has affected kids perception on drugs?
I do agree with you to an extent. But look at it this way, what about the kids who grow up watching mommy or daddy drinking all the time... Does that set a good example? The reason that this is going to be on the ballot is because we are looking for a SAFER www.safercolorado.org alternative to drinking. In all reality you look at pot, then you look at alcohol, which one do you think is safer for your body? You can listen to all the facts, and it turns out it's pot. Crazy huh?
Alcohol Statistics [glow=red,2,300]More than 100,000 U.S. deaths are caused by excessive alcohol consumption each year. Direct and indirect causes of death include drunk driving, cirrhosis of the liver, falls, cancer, and stroke.1[/glow] You never hear about marijuana related death's
At least once a year, the guidelines for low risk drinking are exceeded by an estimated 74% of male drinkers and 72% of female drinkers aged 21 and older.2
65% of youth surveyed said that they got the alcohol they drink from family and friends.7
Nearly 14 million Americans meet diagnostic criteria for alcohol use disorders.5
[glow=red,2,300]Youth who drink alcohol are 50 times more likely to use cocaine than those who never drink alcohol.3[/glow] and they say that pot is the gateway drug
Among current adult drinkers, more than half say they have a blood relative who is or was an alcoholic or problem drinker.1
Across people of all ages, males are four times as likely as females to be heavy drinkers.1
More than 18% of Americans experience alcohol abuse or alcohol dependence at some time in their lives.6
[glow=red,2,300]Traffic crashes are the greatest single cause of death for persons aged 6–33. About 45% of these fatalities are in alcohol-related crashes.4[/glow]
[glow=red,2,300]Underage drinking costs the United States more than $58 billion every year — enough to buy every public school student a state-of-the-art computer.2[/glow]
[glow=red,2,300]Alcohol is the most commonly used drug among young people.1[/glow]
Problem drinkers average four times as many days in the hospital as nondrinkers — mostly because of drinking-related injuries.1
[glow=red,2,300]Alcohol kills 6½ times more youth than all other illicit drugs combined.2[/glow] LOOK AT THAT!!!! AND I AM JUST ADVOCATING FOR POT
Concerning the past 30 days, 50% of high school seniors report drinking, with 32% report being drunk at least once.2
Sources 1 Substance Abuse: The Nation’s Number One Health Problem, Feb. 2001 2 Mothers Against Drunk Driving 3 National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse 4 National Highway Traffic Safety Administration 5 Alcohol Health & Research World 6 National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism Analysis 7 The Century Council
Post by Madame Shimmy on Oct 5, 2006 17:26:24 GMT -5
I enjoy having my own opinion and reading others. Not a big deal at all.
You are right about alcholics raising children. It is NOT a good example. I can't debate that.
The more I think about decriminalizing I wonder if it would be a good idea. Not making it criminal problem and making it a social problem does have its beneifits. As long as the fines were increased two fold there would be a benefit. It would be a good way for the community to collect money. Even if the person doesn't show up for court he/she will have a bench warrant issued and he/she would go to jail for the night or have a bigger fine to pay.
I just feel comfortable knowing there is SOME kind of a punishment for breaking the law, WHATEVER it may be, felony or fine.
I believe that anyone will try to justify what they are using by trying to make something else sound worse (like marijuana and alcohol for example). I'm sure cocain addicts could try and find some way to justify using that. I just think that all drugs are equally bad and should be outlawed. I wouldn't even care if alcohol was deemed illegal, because it serves no valuable purpose.
Post by Madame Shimmy on Oct 10, 2006 14:54:18 GMT -5
It sure is scary to think that one of the worlds cruelist leaders now has nuclear capabilities. I was reading on my homepage that Isreal is now afraid that Korea will help Iran with it's nuclear program. It is one thing to have nuclear capabilities but a whole different story when you use your nuclear capabilities for weapons. I hope to god there will not be another Hiroshima anywhere in the world.
Irans President has stated that he would like to enileate(sp?) Isreal. Now that Korea has successfully completed their test it is very possible for Korea to help Iran.
This is what was stated on my news page.
"North Korea has close defense ties with Iran, and Pyongyang helped Tehran develop its Shihab long-range surface-to-surface missiles that are capable of reaching Israel".
With all that nuclear crap, I am just glad I live in a landlocked state....don't think the nuke's would reach here, hopefully. And plus ignorance is bliss....I just like to not know about stuff like that...
Post by Madame Shimmy on Oct 10, 2006 16:16:36 GMT -5
Sorry to tell you Jenna but all it takes is an airplane or a submarine to reach the US with nuclear weapons. But please continue living in denial... ;D
This blurb below has to be one of the lamest comments I have read in a long time. What a contradiction.
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration rejected anew Tuesday direct talks with North Korea and said it would not be intimidated by a reported threat from Pyongyang that it could fire a nuclear-tipped missile unless the U.S. acts to resolve the standoff. This is the way North Korea typically negotiates by threat and intimidation," said U.S. Ambassador John Bolton. [glow=orange,2,300]"It's worked for them before. It won't work for them now."[/glow]
Post by tetherednchained on Oct 11, 2006 22:20:21 GMT -5
Once again, democrats caught in a voter registration fraud in St. Louis and other cities. Just like in 2004. pfft! Both parties are useless and not to be trusted.
Voter registration fraud alleged in St. Louis 09:51 PM CDT on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 KMOV ST. LOUIS (AP) -- St. Louis election officials say hundreds of potentially bogus voter registration cards were submitted by a group that's been repeatedly criticized by other election leaders for registering invalid and potentially fraudulent voters.
The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now -- or ACORN -- on Wednesday stood by the integrity of its nonprofit mission, to send paid and volunteer workers around cities to sign up new voters.
At least 1,500 potentially fraudulent voter registration cards were turned in by the St. Louis ACORN branch leading up to Wednesday's voter registration deadline for the Nov. 7 election, St. Louis City Board of Election Commissioners chairwoman Kim Mathis said.
Invalid voter registrations solicited by ACORN workers included duplicate or incomplete registrations, a 16-year-old voter, dead people registering and forged signatures, Mathis said.
"Fifteen hundred may not sound like a lot, but it is a big deal and it disenfranchises the election process," Mathis said. "It's time someone be prosecuted. There's a lot of taxpayer dollars being wasted on this."
ACORN spokesman Brian Mellor told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, which first reported the potential fraud, that prosecution could be warranted.
"We try very hard to monitor the employees, but there are chances of things slipping through," Mellor said. He did not return phone calls from The Associated Press.
ACORN ran voter registration drives in Missouri and 16 other states this year. Similar allegations have been made in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Denver, though no charges have been filed.
St. Louis Republican elections director Scott Leiendecker said that once a final count of potentially fraudulent submissions is finished next week, he will turn the matter over to authorities for possible prosecution.
In a statement responding to the Ohio allegations last week, ACORN's national president, Maude Hurd, said her organizations do not commit voter fraud.
"We work hard to bring new people into the democratic process and work to maintain good quality control," Hurd said. "In the rare cases where an employee has done something wrong, ACORN has not only fired that person, but worked to have them prosecuted where appropriate."
Four ACORN workers were reportedly fired over a September 2003 incident after the St. Louis Election Board pointed out more than 1,000 questionable new voter registration forms collected by ACORN.
ACORN registered more than a million U.S. voters in 2004, when it also had to defend itself against fraud allegations.
During that presidential election year, unreadable cards, duplicate registrations and other invalid or potentially fraudulent registrations turned up in Ohio, Minnesota, North Carolina and Virginia.
Hurd said often times the applications in question have proven to be legitimate, honest mistakes or not fraud at all. She said questionable voter cards make up just a sliver of the hundreds of thousand of legitimate voters the organization has registered.
This year in Missouri, ACORN has turned in about 40,000 new voter registrations. Half of those were in St. Louis city and county. The other 20,000 or so were collected in the Kansas City area, according to election officials.
Kansas City also is questioning some voter registrations turned in, including some that came from ACORN, said Ray James, director of the Kansas City Board of Election Commissioners. But he noted that questionable registrations come in every election.
"I don't have good numbers at this point. I can roughly tell you that thousands have been turned in with signatures that don't match previous registrations, duplications, unreadable ones and incomplete ones," James said. "It's hard to iron all this out and pin a certain amount on ACORN at this point."
ACORN has repeatedly called allegations of fraud a politically motivated maneuver.
Voter registration has been an issue for both parties this year as Democrats seek to regain control of the House and/or the Senate.
ACORN, founded in 1970, has traditionally been associated with the Democratic Party.
This year, ACORN has been encouraging Missouri voters to pass a ballot proposal to increase Missouri's minimum wage to $6.50 per hour from $5.15 per hour. Proposition B is seen as an issue largely supported by Democrats.
Saint Louis University political scientist Ken Warren, who has researched and investigated voter fraud since the 1980s, said the invalid and fraudulent voter registration is to be expected considering the massive undertaking of registering tens of thousands of voters.
"ACORN can't possibly supervise all the people working for them," Warren said. "Unfortunately, sometimes there are innocent errors with mistakes or duplications. Then there are these people who get overzealous for their party and commit fraud."
Post by tetherednchained on Oct 12, 2006 0:01:50 GMT -5
This will piss a lot of people off im sure.
I am not 100% against abortion….
The way it is now: If the mother wants to keep the child, the father is forced to pay for that child until the child is at least 18 years old.
If she wants to abort the child, she can do so without the father even knowing.
The way I think it should be: I believe the father should have a say as to what happens to his child.
If the father wants to take care of the child, he should be able to do so. If the mother wants nothing to do with the child then she gives up all rights to child. Forever.
To make it fair, the father should be allowed to force the mother to abort the child if he doesn’t want anything to do with it. If the mother doesn’t want to abort then she should have to raise the child on her own with no help from the father.
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