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Post by luxavalanche on May 15, 2012 9:47:28 GMT -5
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Post by Tornado on May 15, 2012 10:20:23 GMT -5
The tool behind the NME review is 'Rick Martin' btw. Let him pay. I wrote some ironic comments about his "masterpiece" on NME's page. Everyone, if you have Facebook accounts, comment against this ridiculous review.
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Post by Tornado on May 15, 2012 10:27:52 GMT -5
NME is a rubbish POS publication. It has some interesting stuff on it, but I don't always agree with their reviews. They can be kind of snobbish. They push the new latest hot thing all the time, they care more about what is trendy, then what is good. They also gave a horrible review 3/10 to the new Gossip record which I think is amazing. NME have some good articles. But their reviews tend to be terrible. They also worship to death bands like Oasis, Arctic Monkeys, Blur, Pulp, The Smiths, The Strokes etc. They also did some big mistakes like promoting like hell the band Brother (aka "the saviors of rock"). Later, when EVERYONE slagged off this band, NME initially ignored the band like nothing happened. A bit later they started the backlash. They also gave a very low rating for their debut album. This is disgusting. NME should fire some pricks from their team...
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Post by luxavalanche on May 15, 2012 11:03:25 GMT -5
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Post by luxavalanche on May 15, 2012 11:52:16 GMT -5
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darkling1219
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Post by darkling1219 on May 15, 2012 12:04:54 GMT -5
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Post by darkling1219 on May 15, 2012 12:24:06 GMT -5
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Post by umbrto on May 15, 2012 13:03:27 GMT -5
In fact, I did read an interview where Butch says they had offers from big record companies and a lot of money involved but they rejected it.
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Post by Hangin' With The Bichard on May 15, 2012 13:31:12 GMT -5
I'll argue til the cows come home about guitars being more present on any Garbage song than electronica due to the heavyweight production...to the fore yes, but not more present. They're certainly genre benders but there's no disputing that even, say, Vow or Only Happy When It Rains are absolutely pop songs with guitar on them, just as Edge Of Glory is a pop song with guitar on it. But as you say, horses for courses and all that! While I respect your opinions, tastes and general aside that pop is interchangeable into any genre with a melody, Garbage are anything but pop. To me, pop is a short abbreviation for popular music, which could classify any band or artist with success. Disagreeably so, Garbage are a modern rock outfit. While they incorporate flourishes of pop grandeur, they also equally incorporate other genres which declassify the band as pop. They often incorporate electronic based sounds, they have before the technique was a "thing", or even...popular. They were the pioneer of the dirty-filth-"pop" sound. They incorporate industrial music (NIN famously), trip-hop (zero7), dreamscape/shoegaze (Cranberries, Mazzy Star), grunge (Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins), arena rock (U2), goth... Most importantly, Garbage have always been about rock music. While pop music has made forays into the incorporation of the guitar, Garbage use the guitar while incorporating forays into pop/electronic sounds. Guitar usage in mainstream pop, is a more recent affair with Kelly Clarkson and P!nk really setting that standard and Lady Gaga only dipping into those sounds. Garbage songs are always structured for the guitar and are first and foremost modern/alternative rock songs. Whereas pop, until recently, was doing an RNB, hip hop, or teenybopper thing... Garbage bend the genres, their most pop album seems to be the most despised, coincidence? I never said pop was interchangeable to any genre with a melody. I said it was the hooks and structure that make Garbage songs pop. Pretty much all songs have a melody of some sort! There are so many pop hooks in Garbage songs (be they in the vocals or music) that this alone to me suggests Garbage are a pop band. Some of these are quite innovative, such as the repetative bassline in Stupid Girl which is almost subliminal in its hookiness. But then there are the more obvious guitar loops in songs such as Push It (in the chorus), Only Happy When It Rains, Vow, Androgyny etc etc. I Hate Love has the sample-synth loop too on the latest album. Even more telling are the very in-your-face vocal hooks in songs like When I Grow Up (Ba-ba-ba-ba etc) and Special (Ah-ah-ah-ah-ahhh...). THEN you have the pilfering and interpolating from existing pop songs into their music (Push It again..."don't worry baby", Salt n Pepa's "Push It"). Another widespread misconception is the confusion of "pop music" and "popular music". The latter is, as you say, anything that is popular, but the former is an actual genre of music in its own right. One that has its roots in 50s rock 'n' roll. As such The Beatles and Blondie would be classed as pop, despite both groups employing heavy use of guitars. Pop is by definition a genre which incorporates elements from other forms as music, so in that sense Garbage could be seen as being one of the ultimate pop bands of recent times, as that is precisely what they do. The purest form of pop is that which in fact employs the use of bass, drums, and you guessed it, the good old electric guitar. Songs are not normally overly long, follow the verse-chorus structure and have lots of hooks to garner an audience. I personally think most Garbage songs meet these criteria! Anyway, the info in this link can explain the above far more eloquently than I ever could...! top40.about.com/od/popmusic101/a/popmusic.htm
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Post by Tornado on May 15, 2012 13:52:54 GMT -5
Calgary Herald 2.5/5
This dude that wrote the review is clearly obsessed with relevance.
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Post by luxavalanche on May 15, 2012 13:59:05 GMT -5
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Post by Hangin' With The Bichard on May 15, 2012 14:06:38 GMT -5
What an exceelent review! I like the fact that they single out I Hate Love. For me that is the quintessential Garbage song on the album, the natural auccessor to the dark electro-rock melting pot of V2.0. Aceness. Just a shame there's not a couple more of these types of songs on the album!
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Post by darkling1219 on May 15, 2012 14:14:39 GMT -5
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Post by garbagefiend on May 15, 2012 17:51:40 GMT -5
77 Square (Madison, Wi) Surround Sound : Garbage “Not Your Kind of People” Stunvolume 3 stars (out of 4) “I’ve been gone for so long,” sings Garbage’s tough-as-nails frontwoman Shirley Manson early on in “Not Your Kind of People,” the first album the Madison exports have released since 2005’s “Bleed Like Me.” The time away hasn’t mellowed the fiery singer in the slightest, however, and she commands every second of the group’s comeback effort with the force of a would-be dominatrix. “Look, but don’t touch,” she orders on one song. Then, on another, “Get out of my face before I lose my patience.” Manson’s bandmates — Butch Vig, Steve Marker and current Madison resident Duke Erikson — match the singer’s fury, laying down a backdrop of thundering drums and mechanized guitar riffs that sound more like digital effects lifted from one of Michael Bay’s “Transformer” movies than anything captured in a recording studio. “Battle in Me” builds to a pummeling crescendo, Manson ducking a volley of riffs that hit like a heavyweight boxer working the speed bag. On “Man on Wire” the singer howls about being “resurrected, reborn” atop a guitar line that sounds like an amplified take on the Kinks’ “All Day and All of the Night.” At times, Manson’s vocals are treated as harshly as the guitars, and her voice is run through a variety of computer effects and filters. “I can feel I’ve lost control,” she sings on one tune as her voice breaks into digital shrapnel, like a cyborg with a developing speak impediment. In the past, Garbage’s digital pop attack sounded well ahead of its time — fitting, considering the crew came of age in a state with the motto “Forward” — but “Not Your Kind of People” finds the musicians picking up where they left off rather than exploring unchartered territory, and there are plenty of moments here that would have fit comfortably on earlier records. The title track, for one, comes across like an outsider anthem that’s been sitting on ice since the band released its 1995 debut. Still, the veteran group maintains its youthful fire throughout, and it’s little surprise when Manson references the Dylan Thomas poem “Do not go gentle into that good night” on the spiky “Big Bright World,” singing “We rage against the dying light.” Rage against the dying light? Incredibly, seven years after many thought Garbage had disappeared for good, it sounds like Manson and Co. are just getting started. m.host.madison.com/entertainment/music/blog/surround-sound-album-review-garbage-not-your-kind-of-people/article_cc2092f4-9ecd-11e1-a6c8-001a4bcf887a.html
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Post by sallykitty on May 15, 2012 23:03:42 GMT -5
The two posts above are great and I totally agree. However, the one thing that is hitting me the more I listen to this (admittedly great) album, is really how little they have added to their sound (as some of the reviews are saying). Don't get me wrong, I love it, but it would have been good for them to have updated the template slightly. I'm thinking a "splicing" of their traditional sound with the more contemporary, electro-filth-pop that's been prevalent in the past year or so (I'm thinking Til The World Ends, Tik Tok, Heavy Metal Lover). These are sounds that would have really melded well with the Garbage staples and it would have been a great opportunity to combine the two. In fact, when I think about, Version 2.0 is closer to this than NYKOP. Oh hell no. The day Garbage sounds anything like Ke$hit is the day I walk away.
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Post by sallykitty on May 15, 2012 23:08:24 GMT -5
Whoever said "public demand for another Garbage album was questionable" can go DIAF. I mean what the hell, where did that come from? Garbage has a really strong, loyal following and there were plenty of people who were very, VERY keen for them to do another album!
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Post by Tornado on May 16, 2012 4:32:08 GMT -5
Whoever said "public demand for another Garbage album was questionable" can go DIAF. I mean what the hell, where did that come from? Garbage has a really strong, loyal following and there were plenty of people who were very, VERY keen for them to do another album! Public demand? That "someone" tried too hard to be funny. Like Garbage's music is some kind of phone or a car...
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Post by garbagefiend on May 16, 2012 5:54:37 GMT -5
Soundblab Garbage Not Your Kind of People Stun Volume Released: Monday 14 May 2012 Rating: 8.5/1090s rock band Garbage have returned with their fifth studio album, which also happens to be their first in over seven years. It may not feel like its been seven years, but sadly some of us have been sat in a world for nearly a decade where the only garbage around is the sort you'd throw away. But it has to be said Garbage's latest offering is definitely something for fans to keep hold of. Reunited by drummer and Nirvana producer Butch Vig, the album mixes an eclectic blend of rock and electronic sounds mixed well with Shirley Manson's rocky yet soft vocals, with a tinge of haunting ambience thrown in for good measure. The album is just flat out brilliant, lets get that in there first, and there are no bad songs from beginning to end. Admittedly there are a few that stand out more than others, but the band could have selected any track from this album to lead with. With a new tour on the horizon for the band, an album packed with this many great tracks, that would fit in perfectly next to their back catalogue, is enough to get anyone excited before running out to buy their front row ticket. Particular highlights from the album include; 'Automatic Systematic Opening', 'Blood for Poppies', 'Control', 'I Hate Love' and 'Man on a Wire.' These tracks just stood out as the best of the best with their mix of electro rock and with riveting and exciting lyrics and vocals from Manson, they're more than anyone could have expected. The only down point of the album was the track 'Sugar', which was a little too slow and just didn't have the fire and passion behind it that the other tracks did. That being said it is still listenable and you definitely wont skip it. Overall this is a brilliant album, and excellent come back record for the band, as it sounds just like vintage Garbage, which is what we have come to love them for, with a few electronic rock tweaks to make it sound a little more fresh and exciting. Bring on the tour. soundblab.com/content/content/view/id/4643 Nice rating but how dare they diss my baby Sugar >:-|
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Post by sallykitty on May 16, 2012 7:08:32 GMT -5
Great review. I agree with "there are no bad songs from beginning to end. Admittedly there are a few that stand out more than others". On an perhaps unrelated note, I'm kind of sick of reading Garbage reviews or other articles that mention Butch Vig produced Nirvana's Nevermind album, as if they have to mention that in order to give Garbage some credibility.
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Post by sallykitty on May 16, 2012 7:10:08 GMT -5
Whoever said "public demand for another Garbage album was questionable" can go DIAF. I mean what the hell, where did that come from? Garbage has a really strong, loyal following and there were plenty of people who were very, VERY keen for them to do another album! Public demand? That "someone" tried too hard to be funny. Like Garbage's music is some kind of phone or a car... Hahaha very true
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