subrussian
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Post by subrussian on Jun 29, 2009 10:32:13 GMT -5
Here goes more by Butch:
Good memory BB....yes it was a cab driver bleeding through the bass!
the start of Vow was 9 individual chords, 3 for each chord, that I loaded into the K2500 sampler, the used filters, panning, and envelope parameters to get that sort or swirly tremolo effect.
We got asked to use that song in a sampler CD "Volume" in the UK, and none of us were into it..at the time it sounded really boring, kind of clean sounding.
When I started to mix, I ran every single channel really hot through the Harrison to get some saturation or distortion, and put Shirls vox through this Nady gtr stomp box.
Also (by accident) only one side of the mix went through a compressor.
The gtr intro, and the mandolin-ish solo by Steve we're recorded at the very last minute. We didn't intend to put the song on the album, and then some radio stations in the US started playing the song, and sort of forced us to get our shit together and finish the album.
Most of the b-sides were done really fast, cuz we needed b-sides...which is why they are kind of all over the place.
Tornado is named after the Tornado Club in Madison, where we spent a lot of time drinking cocktails. The vocal "c'mon Shirl" is Shirley's crazy friend Shannon, who worked there.
I think Alien Sex Fiend is the song that inspired Radiohead to record Kid A.
(Just kidding!)
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Post by acereject on Jun 29, 2009 11:14:33 GMT -5
Hey Dom, Butch has answered another 2 of yours, hope gets back to you on the remainign three:
I kinda hope that one of these questions makes Butch revisit the old tracks and possibly post one or two online as a free download. Plenty of other artists do it.
I've never heard anyone mention it, but I've always loved the BG title "Now That You've Got Me" I'd love to hear that, the title sounds so witty.
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Post by Clay on Jun 29, 2009 12:53:25 GMT -5
Would it be too forward and/or inappropriate to just ask him if he's ever thought about releasing some of these tracks online? It's not very likely they'll ever revisit them otherwise, it'd be better than just having them sit around a studio for eternity.
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Post by acereject on Jun 29, 2009 15:11:52 GMT -5
I suppose you could try, but the liklihood is that all the Garbage unreleased stuff is under contract to UMG and Warner as they have the right to release and exploit (such a double meaning there) any Garbage material recorded between 94 and 09. And Butch might get into trouble for distributing it.
And UMG have the right to any Shirley performance recorded between 1993 and 2008... which everything by Garbage (except WTYL) and inluding all the "noir" Shirley work including "In the Snow" so there is an added problem regarding her vocal on any track he might leak. See why Garbage releases caused so much problems... so many ex-record comapnies.
He once said he'd condider leaking Shirley and Marilyn Mansons "Dont You Want Me" (at the WDYLM shoot) but he may have just been joking.
He just said on another thread that he is in Pre-production for the next Against Me! album, starting Aug.
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Post by acereject on Jun 29, 2009 21:10:41 GMT -5
One guy wrote in that he used to work at Rondor Studio in Los Angeles before Universal closed it. Soldier Through This and Fizzy were recorded there in 1999, and I sent him a msg to ask about it. Also asked Butch about Fire Town and Spooner. Butch just posted a picture of GrungeIsDead, his studio at his home in Silverlake. This is where he remixed "Bad Boyfriend" for AG.  |
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Post by William on Jun 30, 2009 0:07:11 GMT -5
Well done Rik (Ikiriki) you got an answer: Butch also answered this interesting question about a John Carpenter influence on Cup of Coffee from soemone else: I always thought the piano part of YLSF sounded like a slowed down version of the Halloween theme. |
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Post by acereject on Jun 30, 2009 5:06:49 GMT -5
[I always thought the piano part of YLSF sounded like a slowed down version of the Halloween theme. You should check out the Butchered Vegas remix of "Milk", on the Australian Tour Edition of "Garbage" or the blue feather sleeve-d "Milk" CD single, there's a strange break in the middle where it is almost the Halloween theme. You know how that ominous DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH noise that sounds in Halloween when Donald Pleasance looks over the balcony and find Michael has dissapeared? I'm convinced that inspired a similar ominous multi-bar note at the end of "#1 Crush" at the last "Die for you" line (Original b-side version I should add). |
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subrussian
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Post by subrussian on Jul 1, 2009 2:31:22 GMT -5
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Post by Tornado on Jul 1, 2009 11:26:01 GMT -5
Damn it! I wanted to ask some questions and the Q&A session is closed!  |
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Post by acereject on Jul 1, 2009 11:59:17 GMT -5
Yeh last accepted questions were last night. Quite dissapointed but hey at least we got a week of the action. so glad I found this forum on google by chance.
Although Garbage has lost their first album masters, billy's keeping the newer stuff under key:
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Post by Tornado on Jul 1, 2009 12:13:15 GMT -5
Right now I'm browsing through all questions. Some of them are too technical
I found something interesting regarding Depeche Mode (other fave band of mine) about In Your Room (Zephyr Mix), basically the single version of this song
Q:
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nice!
PS
Too bad Garbage lost the masters of their first albums
If they will want to re-master their first albums, now they should re-record big parts of them?
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Post by Tornado on Jul 1, 2009 12:55:32 GMT -5
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Post by acereject on Jul 11, 2009 13:14:58 GMT -5
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Post by ALTERNAT1VE on Jul 12, 2009 16:28:08 GMT -5
I'm glad they answered (briefly) my question about Nobody Loves You. I knew they won't reveal the so called secret lyrics but I just had to ask  Being a huge fan of the song I was really shocked to find out that it almost didn't make the record! |
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Post by acereject on Jul 12, 2009 17:03:20 GMT -5
I'm glad they answered (briefly) my question about Nobody Loves You. I knew they won't reveal the so called secret lyrics but I just had to ask Being a huge fan of the song I was really shocked to find out that it almost didn't make the record! Me too. I know Cherry Lips wasn't on the first tracklisting, it was on the second tracklisting a few days later, had no idea NLY was almost left off. I wonder why. Butch told fans at the WDYLM shoot that Untouchable was forced onto the album by Interscope, which makes sense as the press and promo material I have literally points to Untouchable being planned as a US single (which Interscope probably wanted if Androgyny had been a hit). Alas, the BG haters were spared that in the end  |
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Post by Clay on Jul 13, 2009 7:33:11 GMT -5
I wonder how well Untouchable would've performed on the charts.....hm...
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Post by garbagefiend on Jul 13, 2009 19:03:33 GMT -5
Untouchable is just an odd song, it's so early 00's sounding, kinda like tlc or something.
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Post by alittlemouse on Jul 13, 2009 22:07:18 GMT -5
Untouchable is just an odd song, it's so early 00's sounding, kinda like tlc or something. I agree. It sort of reminds me of a "Return of Saturn" type No Doubt song. I'm one of the few people that likes is. "Untouchable" reminds me of somebody I know. |
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Post by Modern Method. on Jul 14, 2009 12:53:49 GMT -5
'Untouchable' is probably one of the popiest songs they ever made. I actually quite liked it to begin with. I thought the chorus was extremely catchy but then I grew tired of it because it lacked substance.
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Post by acereject on Jul 14, 2009 16:45:19 GMT -5
'Untouchable' is probably one of the popiest songs they ever made. I actually quite liked it to begin with. I thought the chorus was extremely catchy but then I grew tired of it because it lacked substance. Shit, I've turned this great thread into a discussion about Untouchable... Tbh, I think if they had cut out the intro, and the doo-doo-It could be nice but and beefed up the speed and the verses a bit it could've been so much better. |
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- what happened to "Hangin' with the Bitches"? It was the supposed first completed track off Bleed Like Me, but it never made the light of day. Was this one of the tracks that was made prior to the temporary hiatus? I'm dying to hear it! You were quoted saying that it was "sort of a talking heads funky groove but a lot darker and noisier".
