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Post by Tornado on Nov 30, 2007 1:42:11 GMT -5
Some days ago I watched a movie Big Daddy (with Sandler) with When I Grow Up on it. I heard a pretty different version than the album version but not too much When I looked at the lyrics of this song I wondered what "golden showers" means... (because I'm not expert in English). I searched Google with those keywords and surprise: I found something really disgusting Anywone knows why Shirley wrote that? (from personal experience?) Or just to shock the listener? And what about a song with such lyrics used on a movie about a kid?!
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Post by Cindy on Nov 30, 2007 3:18:17 GMT -5
Pissing on people, like the way R. Kelly pissed on that little girl on the sex tape from what I've heard.
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Post by acereject on Nov 30, 2007 3:18:52 GMT -5
She's on a cruise to freak you out......
It's not the most well known of phrases so if you never knew what it meant it wouldn't mean anything to you, so having it on a kid's movie wouldn't hurt - I don't think that lyric was on the actual film mix of the song anyway.
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Post by ALTERNAT1VE on Nov 30, 2007 3:49:34 GMT -5
Here's a little article on the topic Fearless Shirley From JUICE Magazine (December 1998)
By Benedict Watts
If the publicity angle for Garbage's debut album was "master producer Butch Vig makes an album with a couple of other boffins and gets an unknown, sultry Scottish spunk to pout suggestively over the top of it," by the time the promotional push for Garbage's 1998 release, Version 2.0, was on, the pitch had altered considerably. Garbage '98 was "the world according to Ms Shirley Manson."
With her willingness to broach any subject with disarming forthrightness and a wicked sense of humour, Shirley Manson is a refreshing change from the "the talent will not answer any questions about anything-interesting" vetting of the Courtney's and Kylie's. On her whirlwind Australian stopover in mid-year, every magazine, radio station and newspaper in the country scrambled to get her uninhibited musings on sex, music, religion, a little more sex and anything else that came to mind.
In JUICE's Sex 2000 (JUICE#66) she audaciously declared her "Ten Commandments of Love." Under Commandment No. 4, "Thou Shalt Honour My Bodily Fluids", she stated, "I hate boys who are frightened of pee and shit and menstrual blood&hellip I want a man who will let me pee in his belly button. I want a man who will accept the bast in me." Shirley also professed a disdain for Y-fronts, preferring her men to free-style, or at least wear boxers.
Despite the charisma of Shirley and her tireless promotional jaunt, Version 2.0 has failed as yet to set the charts alight. Still, with her unconventional beauty, opinions and golden shower fetishes, and abundance of charm, Shirley Manson concreted herself as one of the most fascinating figures in music in 1998.
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Post by Garbage Addict on Nov 30, 2007 4:33:16 GMT -5
Here's a little article on the topic Fearless Shirley From JUICE Magazine (December 1998)
Despite the charisma of Shirley and her tireless promotional jaunt, Version 2.0 has failed as yet to set the charts alight. Still, with her unconventional beauty, opinions and golden shower fetishes, and abundance of charm, Shirley Manson concreted herself as one of the most fascinating figures in music in 1998.sorry to go off topic but Version 2.0 was sucessful everywhere when it was released - what they on about?
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Post by Tornado on Nov 30, 2007 7:54:47 GMT -5
Here's a little article on the topic Fearless Shirley From JUICE Magazine (December 1998)
By Benedict Watts
If the publicity angle for Garbage's debut album was "master producer Butch Vig makes an album with a couple of other boffins and gets an unknown, sultry Scottish spunk to pout suggestively over the top of it," by the time the promotional push for Garbage's 1998 release, Version 2.0, was on, the pitch had altered considerably. Garbage '98 was "the world according to Ms Shirley Manson."
With her willingness to broach any subject with disarming forthrightness and a wicked sense of humour, Shirley Manson is a refreshing change from the "the talent will not answer any questions about anything-interesting" vetting of the Courtney's and Kylie's. On her whirlwind Australian stopover in mid-year, every magazine, radio station and newspaper in the country scrambled to get her uninhibited musings on sex, music, religion, a little more sex and anything else that came to mind.
In JUICE's Sex 2000 (JUICE#66) she audaciously declared her "Ten Commandments of Love." Under Commandment No. 4, "Thou Shalt Honour My Bodily Fluids", she stated, "I hate boys who are frightened of pee and shit and menstrual blood&hellip I want a man who will let me pee in his belly button. I want a man who will accept the bast in me." Shirley also professed a disdain for Y-fronts, preferring her men to free-style, or at least wear boxers.
Despite the charisma of Shirley and her tireless promotional jaunt, Version 2.0 has failed as yet to set the charts alight. Still, with her unconventional beauty, opinions and golden shower fetishes, and abundance of charm, Shirley Manson concreted herself as one of the most fascinating figures in music in 1998.I read that interview with commandments (you can find it on garbage.net) I know Shirley is a freak but sometimes she's going too far (the same story with cornflakes). I really don't like these facts about her
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Post by kattramell on Nov 30, 2007 16:32:26 GMT -5
She likes the showers man. What can you do? I'm not into it at all, but I would let her pee on me, lol.
Eh.
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Post by garbge315 on Nov 30, 2007 19:01:50 GMT -5
She's on a cruise to freak you out...... It's not the most well known of phrases so if you never knew what it meant it wouldn't mean anything to you, so having it on a kid's movie wouldn't hurt - I don't think that lyric was on the actual film mix of the song anyway. there's actually another mix of the song called the 'alt pop mix', which is probably the one they used in the film or at least the lyrics that are substituted in it. she sings, 'happy lovers ache for hours on a cruise to freak you out.' she also sang those lyrics on television performances, if i'm not mistaken.
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Post by acereject on Nov 30, 2007 19:10:21 GMT -5
I know Shirley is a freak but sometimes she's going too far (the same story with cornflakes). I really don't like these facts about her GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!! hahaha I'm sure you engaged in your own sexual practices some would find strange but it's up to you what you want to do. Shirley's personality is that she likes to push buttons and provoke, and these comments are nothing more than playful fun - I do it all the time. I'm addicted to noising people up by giving them too much information. I only regret it when people can't let it go (My colleagues are trying to wind me up by mentioning the time I pulled and had sex round the back of a local club and missed the last bus home and was stranded for 3 hours.... yeh like if it bothered me I wouldn't have told you at the time!)
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Post by Xalazi on Dec 1, 2007 1:10:46 GMT -5
I've always wondered if Shirley just made up the story about Cornflakes just to fuck with us and anyone who would dare ask her about it. It just seems like that isn't the type of story that you would tell in an interview if you actually did that. You might tell that to a close friend to freak them out if you did that, but not a reporter in an interview for the whole world to see. Specially since she seemed to tell it with such a "matter of fact" attitude.
Personally, I think it's fake.
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Post by ElektroCute on Dec 1, 2007 10:57:48 GMT -5
The only sick thing about Shirl's fetishes is the fact that she isn't a man, and can't aim that piss stream all over me. Hopefully she can aim fine with her shitting on my breakfast. Wasn't Shirl in the www.2girls1cup.com videos?
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Post by kattramell on Dec 1, 2007 11:04:52 GMT -5
Here's a little article on the topic Fearless Shirley From JUICE Magazine (December 1998)
By Benedict Watts
If the publicity angle for Garbage's debut album was "master producer Butch Vig makes an album with a couple of other boffins and gets an unknown, sultry Scottish spunk to pout suggestively over the top of it," by the time the promotional push for Garbage's 1998 release, Version 2.0, was on, the pitch had altered considerably. Garbage '98 was "the world according to Ms Shirley Manson."
With her willingness to broach any subject with disarming forthrightness and a wicked sense of humour, Shirley Manson is a refreshing change from the "the talent will not answer any questions about anything-interesting" vetting of the Courtney's and Kylie's. On her whirlwind Australian stopover in mid-year, every magazine, radio station and newspaper in the country scrambled to get her uninhibited musings on sex, music, religion, a little more sex and anything else that came to mind.
In JUICE's Sex 2000 (JUICE#66) she audaciously declared her "Ten Commandments of Love." Under Commandment No. 4, "Thou Shalt Honour My Bodily Fluids", she stated, "I hate boys who are frightened of pee and shit and menstrual blood&hellip I want a man who will let me pee in his belly button. I want a man who will accept the bast in me." Shirley also professed a disdain for Y-fronts, preferring her men to free-style, or at least wear boxers.
Despite the charisma of Shirley and her tireless promotional jaunt, Version 2.0 has failed as yet to set the charts alight. Still, with her unconventional beauty, opinions and golden shower fetishes, and abundance of charm, Shirley Manson concreted herself as one of the most fascinating figures in music in 1998.I read that interview with commandments (you can find it on garbage.net) I know Shirley is a freak but sometimes she's going too far (the same story with cornflakes). I really don't like these facts about her But why do you care, exactly? You seem to be a little unsure about who Shirley Manson is. Read up on her a bit, and you'll see. Shirley just may not be the gal for you, hun.
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Post by William on Dec 1, 2007 12:06:57 GMT -5
The only sick thing about Shirl's fetishes is the fact that she isn't a man, and can't aim that piss stream all over me. Hopefully she can aim fine with her shitting on my breakfast. Wasn't Shirl in the www.2girls1cup.com videos? A couple days ago I think I wasted an hour or so on Youtube looking at reaction videos of people watching that site. The funniest one was Kermit The Frog: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOn1htjSZic
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Post by Cindy on Dec 3, 2007 3:12:54 GMT -5
I know Shirley is a freak but sometimes she's going too far (the same story with cornflakes). I really don't like these facts about her GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!! hahaha I'm sure you engaged in your own sexual practices some would find strange but it's up to you what you want to do. Shirley's personality is that she likes to push buttons and provoke, and these comments are nothing more than playful fun - I do it all the time. I'm addicted to noising people up by giving them too much information. I only regret it when people can't let it go (My colleagues are trying to wind me up by mentioning the time I pulled and had sex round the back of a local club and missed the last bus home and was stranded for 3 hours.... yeh like if it bothered me I wouldn't have told you at the time!) haha and that's why Garbage is freakin awesome...
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Post by Tornado on Dec 3, 2007 5:54:55 GMT -5
But why do you care, exactly? You seem to be a little unsure about who Shirley Manson is. Read up on her a bit, and you'll see. Shirley just may not be the gal for you, hun. GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!! hahaha I'm sure you engaged in your own sexual practices some would find strange but it's up to you what you want to do. Shirley's personality is that she likes to push buttons and provoke, and these comments are nothing more than playful fun - I do it all the time. I'm addicted to noising people up by giving them too much information. I only regret it when people can't let it go (My colleagues are trying to wind me up by mentioning the time I pulled and had sex round the back of a local club and missed the last bus home and was stranded for 3 hours.... yeh like if it bothered me I wouldn't have told you at the time!) Sorry but something's wrong here... I know pretty well what Shirley is/was. I know she's a nice and complex person with a weird (and sometimes really funny) sense of humour. The problem is that I don't get as good anuyhing just because it's related to Garbage/Shirley. To be honest I'm not a blind fan. Songs like Queer, Androgyny or ST are quite dirty (and I like them for their ambiguity) but this time it's too obvious... Even a song like SINTE seems innocent compared to that lyric from WIGU. I know, she's an artist, she can write everything she wants, maybe I took too seriously that lyric from WIGU, but let's face it it's a dirty and disgusting thing. I hope Shirley wrote that just for shock value (it's her choice if she wants to express her sexual fantasies through some Garbage songs). She's pretty weird for me but anyway she has a lot of wonderful features. So, I like her a lot except those nasty facts...
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Post by ALTERNAT1VE on Dec 3, 2007 7:16:19 GMT -5
She's pretty weird for me but anyway she has a lot of wonderful features. So, I like her a lot except those nasty facts... The thing is that they are not 'facts'. You can never be sure if she said this to shock the readers of the interview, because she was bored by the interviewer or just because she really means it. And you really don't have to be 'a blind fan' to accept somebody else's prefferences (being sexual, political or whatever). I could care less what Shirley does in her bedroom (well, except if I was in the bed with her *I wish*). It is her own business. True or not. I don't respect her cause she is this ideal, flawless person. She has her own oddities and you don't have to agree with them and practice them yourself. Just accept them. Of course you always have the right not to... it is your personal choice. In fact one major part of Garbage lirycs are about that IMO - being able to accept the others no matter that they might look weird and not-like-yourself for what they are
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Post by Dance Away on Dec 3, 2007 9:19:26 GMT -5
If there's any one thing I do know for certain about Ms. Shirley Manson, she is wicked intelligent. Her brain is the sexiest thing about her. (...and that's how I know that Shirley at age 80 is going to be just as sexy in my mind as she is now in her 40s) Shirl's very knowledgable about how diet affects your mind and body. She's sensitive about animal rights. I think she's a genuinely concerned world citizen about problems plaguing our humanity around the globe, and I see the potential in her to become much more 'activist' ... like U2's Bono. And I do not doubt that Shirl's very well versed on this topic: Urine Therapy (note: this Shirley is not Shirley Manson)www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine.htm#1"For almost the entire course of the 20th century, unknown to the public, doctors and medical researchers have been proving in both laboratory and clinical testing that our own urine is an enormous source of vital nutrients, vitamins, hormones, enzymes and critical antibodies that cannot be duplicated or derived from any other source. They use urine for healing cancer, heart disease, allergies, auto-immune diseases, diabetes, asthma, infertility, infections, wounds and on and on -- yet we're taught that urine is a toxic waste product. This discrepancy between the medical truth and the public information regarding urine is ludicrous and, as the news releases you've just read demonstrate, can mean the difference between life and death to you and to your loved ones." --Martha ChristyI've never experienced this "golden showers" thing (but I have peed into the wind, lol) but I can image that when it happens the first time in a relationship, it's a test of "how much of me are you really willing to put up with?" (i.e., a test of "how much of me do you really love?"), ...it's a test of "are you going to freak-out in revulsion and leave me because of this (a sure sign of an incompatable relationship), or, are you going to come along with me through this wonderfully bizarre moment between us ... because you really do love all of me (a sure sign of a relationship with endless growth potential).
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Post by Tornado on Dec 3, 2007 11:15:32 GMT -5
She's pretty weird for me but anyway she has a lot of wonderful features. So, I like her a lot except those nasty facts... The thing is that they are not 'facts'. You can never be sure if she said this to shock the readers of the interview, because she was bored by the interviewer or just because she really means it. I already said that on my first post (that part with "shock the listener") By 'facts" I mean what she said (interviews) or wrote (lyrics). Almost all interviews are boring; not an interview with Shirley
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Post by Garbage Addict on Dec 3, 2007 11:52:06 GMT -5
I think people are getting a little carried away over one lyric. She may or may not have indulged in it - Shirley has been open about many subjects in the past - sexual politics being one of them which is prt of what makes her so great - that shes willing to talk about things. I agree with whoever said a Shirley interview is rarely/never dull. There are more dare I say it "extreme" things than golden showers... if you are comfortable and happy doing it then go ahead is all I say
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