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Post by rockstars on Oct 14, 2008 18:11:22 GMT -5
Were any of you aware that in 1992 John McCain called his wife a cunt in public? She had commented on his thinning hair and he replied, “At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.” THis was over heard by several reporters. Now is that what we want coming from a possible president of the United States. Is that how we want our Commander in Chief to treat his wife. Is this a positive role model for our children? That shit doesn't fly with me. If I had any intentions of voting Republican, that was the killer. I heard about this from Michaelangelo Signorile on Sirius OutQ. I thought it was fucking hilarious. After they played that clip a million times, one of the producers got the idea to change one of the clips of Cindy McCain talking about Michelle Obama's comments about being proud of her country. They managed to make Cindy McCain flawlessly say, "I don't know why she said that, but I've always been proud of my cunt." Priceless. lol
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Post by Madame Shimmy on Oct 14, 2008 18:19:32 GMT -5
Ha, ha, ha, I would like to hear that. To funny!!
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Post by Volk on Oct 14, 2008 21:32:32 GMT -5
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Post by Madame Shimmy on Oct 15, 2008 6:55:59 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing that little treasure Jim. Hhahahhaha!!!
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Post by Manic Bliss on Oct 15, 2008 6:57:58 GMT -5
I dunno...if I were were McCain I would have called her a cunt also. Tit for a tat.
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Post by BTweety04 on Oct 15, 2008 20:33:22 GMT -5
Who cares about something that was said 16 or so years ago. That's all hearsay any way and has no effect on the issues of this election. It is just another thing for the media to get people hung up on and stray them away from the issues.
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Post by tetherednchained on Oct 15, 2008 21:34:04 GMT -5
Who cares about something that was said 16 or so years ago. That's all hearsay any way and has no effect on the issues of this election. It is just another thing for the media to get people hung up on and stray them away from the issues. They care if it makes McCain look bad. Its what they do.
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Post by Volk on Oct 15, 2008 21:50:53 GMT -5
Who cares about something that was said 16 or so years ago. That's all hearsay any way and has no effect on the issues of this election. It is just another thing for the media to get people hung up on and stray them away from the issues. They care if it makes McCain look bad. Its what they do. nobody is "dwelling on it"....and if OBAMA had said it, idiots like Sean Hannity would be talking about it 24/7.
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Post by tetherednchained on Oct 15, 2008 23:18:47 GMT -5
They care if it makes McCain look bad. Its what they do. nobody is "dwelling on it"....and if OBAMA had said it, idiots like Sean Hannity would be talking about it 24/7. True Hannity would be. He is a way to divisive too. We need a middle ground to discuss things and we need to get rid of all the BS.
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Post by Madame Shimmy on Oct 16, 2008 7:05:45 GMT -5
Who cares about something that was said 16 or so years ago. That's all hearsay any way and has no effect on the issues of this election. It is just another thing for the media to get people hung up on and stray them away from the issues. Well, I for one care. History repeats itself very often. So he said it sixteen years ago IN A PUBLIC PLACE, how many times has he been verbally abusive to her in private? Coming from an abusive home as a child, I have NO DESIRE to have a Commander in Chief who speaks to his wife like that. His actions speak loud and clear to his personality and character and I'm not impressed by either.
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Post by BTweety04 on Oct 16, 2008 11:04:03 GMT -5
Well I am just saying that your are judging a man based on one thing that was said many years ago and may or may not even be true (because reporters claimed they heard it). But I guess it really doesn't matter because you already have your mind made up and your just looking for justification to dislike him.
But once again, it detracts from the issues of the election and has no baring as to how either candidate can run this country.
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Post by Madame Shimmy on Oct 16, 2008 11:45:47 GMT -5
We'll have to agree to disagree that a persons past behaviors are a clear view to what they are capable of in the future. So, I can't just dismiss something that happened sixteen years ago. He was a political figure than and he wanted it swept under the rug. McCain is KNOWN for his bad temper. Everyone knows this, no matter what ticket they support. Agree to disagree?.?
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Post by Madame Shimmy on Oct 16, 2008 13:15:33 GMT -5
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Post by pdn on Oct 16, 2008 13:25:04 GMT -5
ACORN fears overblown
Charges of potential vote fraud volleyed by Republicans, including Sen. John McCain himself, are out of proportion to reality, according to election experts.
The concerns – raised by the Republican National Committee in daily conference calls with reporters, as well as by McCain himself in Wednesday's debate – focus on the nonprofit group ACORN, whose nationwide voter registration efforts have garnered apparently fraudulent registration cards, some for fictional characters like "Mickey Mouse."
ACORN, whose registration efforts generally target poor neighborhoods, "is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy," McCain claimed last night, citing Sen. Barack Obama's ties to the group.
Obama reportedly worked with ACORN when he ran a Chicago-area voter registration drive shortly after graduating from law school, and conducted leadership training with the group. During the primaries, Obama's campaign paid an ACORN-affiliated group $800,000 for get-out-the-vote efforts, which reportedly did not include voter registration. The group's political arm has endorsed Obama's candidacy.
But McCain's voter fraud worries – about ACORN or anyone else – are unsupported by the facts, said experts on election fraud, who recall similar concerns being raised in several previous elections, despite a near-total absence of cases.
"There's no evidence that any of these invalid registrations lead to any invalid votes," said David Becker, project director of the "Make Voting Work" initiative for the Pew Charitable Trusts.
Becker should know: he was a lawyer for the Bush administration until 2005, in the Justice Department's voting rights section, which was part of the administration's aggressive anti-vote-fraud effort.
"The Justice Department really made prosecution of voter fraud of this sort a big priority in the first half of this decade, and they really didn't come up with anything," he said.
"We're chasing these ghosts of voter fraud, like chickens without a head," said Lorraine Minnite, a political science professor at Barnard College in New York who has researched voter fraud and fraud claims for most of the past decade. "I think it's completely overblown, I think it's meant to be a distraction."
"This stuff does not threaten the outcome of the election," said Minnite. "How many illegal ballots have been cast by people who are fraudulently registered to vote? By my count, it's zero. I just don't know of any, I've been looking for years for this stuff."
Vote Tampering and Fraud Sees Seven or Eight Convictions a Year, Says Expert
For all types of vote tampering and fraud, including vote buying, Minnite says the Justice Department has averaged seven or eight convictions a year.
Despite the experts' opinions, a McCain-Palin campaign spokesman reiterated that their concern was real. In cases like absentee voting, "there's no way of knowing whether [voters] are who they say they are," said the spokesman, who declined to be identified.
So far, one case of alleged vote fraud has been reported in this election: On Sept. 30, an Ohio man reportedly attempted to vote using the state's early-voting process, who registered under a fake address, according to the New York Post. However, the state's bipartisan election board was downplaying concerns over such fraud, according to the paper.
ACORN has defended its efforts by pointing out that it has reported "almost all" of the bogus cards itself, and noting that McCain had supported the group's efforts in other areas in the past. "Repeating a lie doesn't make it true," read a statement the group released last night in response to McCain's attack, "and the McCain campaign has resorted to the worst type of deceptions in regards to ACORN."
And while the RNC has labeled ACORN a "quasi-criminal group," not all Republicans share their party's concern. Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, whom McCain once reportedly considered as a running mate, told a reporter recently that he wasn't worried by ACORN's registration efforts in his state.
Even the non-partisan truth-in-politics Web site FactCheck.org called foul on McCain's alleged possible conspiracy, noting that a Republican prosecutor handling a key ACORN registration fraud case has said there's no evidence indicating the group was involved in vote fraud.
"This scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting," said King County, Wash. Prosecutor Dan Satterberg in a 2007 statement, after a federal-state investigation found seven ACORN workers had submitted over 1,700 bogus voter registration forms.
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Post by Volk on Oct 16, 2008 16:25:51 GMT -5
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Post by rockstars on Oct 16, 2008 19:04:26 GMT -5
In an effort to be non-partisan, I call people cunts all the time! LOL
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Post by BTweety04 on Oct 16, 2008 23:34:24 GMT -5
Agree to disagree. P.S. Why is cunt considered such a horrible word. I use it all the time. Cunt cunt cunt. What a great word.
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Post by pdn on Oct 18, 2008 1:07:54 GMT -5
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Post by Madame Shimmy on Oct 18, 2008 9:09:52 GMT -5
It's a word NO HUSBAND should call his wife if he truely loves or respects her. I saw cunt too, but I would NEVER in a million years call someone I love or care for a cunt.
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Post by pdn on Oct 18, 2008 15:50:47 GMT -5
Obama Rally Draws 100,000 in Missouri
Amy Chozick reports on the presidential race from St. Louis. Barack Obama attracted 100,000 people at a Saturday rally here, his biggest crowd ever at a U.S. event. The crowd assembled under the Gateway Arch on a sunny Saturday afternoon to hear Obama speak about taxes and slam the Republicans on economic issues. Lt. Samuel Dotson of the St. Louis Police Department confirmed the number of attendees piled into the grassy lawn by the Mississippi River. To be sure, big crowds don’t always signal a big turnout on Election Day. But Obama’s ability to draw his largest audience yet in a typically red state that just weeks ago looked out of reach, could signal a changing electoral map. For months Missouri polls put Obama as much as ten percentage points behind Republican John McCain. It was widely believed that McCain’s pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate would have won over the state’s conservatives and boosted his chances there. So far, that hasn’t happened. A Rasmussen poll released on Friday shows Obama leading in Missouri 52% to 46% for McCain. Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill had harsh words for Palin when she introduced Obama on Saturday. Referring to comments Palin made earlier this week in North Carolina about “pro-America” states, McCaskill said “We have reached a new low in America politics when a candidate dares to say that one part of America is pro-America and another part is anti-America.” She also took a dig at McCain for selecting a vice presidential nominee with limited experience. “One [candidate] picked one of the strongest candidates for vice president he could’ve picked in the United States and well, the other didn’t.” Recognizing that big rallies don’t always result in cast ballots, the Obama campaign has dispatched thousands of field organizers and volunteers to Missouri to knock on doors in a statewide get out the vote effort. (Photo: Associated Press)
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