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Post by Tornado on May 10, 2012 16:37:51 GMT -5
3/10? Impossible. Whot told you that? I've also noticed ths magazine was positive about their comeback and singles. Someone from Garbage Board' Facebook group.
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Post by lasirius on May 10, 2012 16:42:19 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to the Pitchfork review, I'm expecting them to rate it -10/10. They have no credibility whatsoever. No credibility, but their reviews are read by many people. They're quite influential. And they hate bands that make catchy music like Garbage. The more obscure, the higher rating (except Radiohead). Agree with that statement, though judging by comments on their Facebook they do receive some backlash for sticking up strictly for the obscure band.
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Post by luxavalanche on May 10, 2012 16:53:06 GMT -5
They will praise mainstream pop, on occasion (Rihanna, Gaga, etc.). They are more about control - they don't like when something flourishes on its own, without their mandate. Lana Del Rey is a fantastic case in point. They loved her til she became huge, then lambasted her. Who has the last laugh, though? Lana.
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Post by darkling1219 on May 10, 2012 18:53:17 GMT -5
UCSD GUARDIAN 5/10 " Clean Garbage: Shirley Manson tries "cute" on awkward, pop-ridden LP. ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) It’s no longer the 90s, and Garbage has updated their sound accordingly. Lead singer Shirley Manson has been repping the outcasts and misfits of society since the band’s mega-hit, “I’m Only Happy When It Rains” became the glorious anthem for angsty goths everywhere. But after a seven year hiatus, Garbage’s fifth studio album Not Your Kind Of People tries to stay true to their original attitude, but with an updated and glossy techno pop sound, resulting in glaring contradiction. The title track, “Not Your Kind Of People” is a down-tempo, relatively quiet number, whose lyrics “We are not your kind of people / you seem kind of phony / everything’s a lie” hit listeners over the head with how ‘alternative’ Garbage still is — but, in doing so, seem to constantly emphasize the band’s fall from youthful relevance. Opener “Automatic Systematic” kicks off with an uncharacteristically catchy techno beat — a sigh-inducing surrender to mainstream pop aesthetics — spinning into a repetitive pop chorus that finds Manson chanting, “I don’t want to be your dirty little secret,” borrowing lyrics from, of all places, sugar-sweet rockers the All American Rejects. It’s a bit unnerving, not to mention sad, to hear such a sexually confident and respected female rock star sing like a tween-pop princess. “Control” is the only song off the album that seems to hone close to the band’s grungy and earnest alt sound, with louder guitar riffs, grittier vocals and a headbanger chorus. But the effort is ultimately too little too late in an album that leaves us wanting less glitzy pop rehash and more Garbage." www.ucsdguardian.org/component/k2/item/25686-garbage-not-your-kind-of-people
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Post by luxavalanche on May 10, 2012 19:22:41 GMT -5
who cares, some child wrote that. next!
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Post by Garbage Addict on May 10, 2012 19:27:07 GMT -5
Kerrang 4/5 and Guardian today 4/5 - the former said it was wonderful abs the later said it was great
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Post by Subhumanoid on May 10, 2012 20:43:01 GMT -5
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Post by luxavalanche on May 10, 2012 21:18:08 GMT -5
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Post by capsmvp on May 11, 2012 1:11:55 GMT -5
Sadly, I agree with the UCSD GUARDIAN review, and I love this band so much.
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Post by Tornado on May 11, 2012 3:13:35 GMT -5
Sadly, I agree with the UCSD GUARDIAN review, and I love this band so much. Fortunately, I don't agree with the UCSD GUARDIAN review, and I love this band so much. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by drunk on May 11, 2012 4:44:17 GMT -5
60 points from BBC? How do they know it? There is no grade in that review.
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Post by Tornado on May 11, 2012 5:05:18 GMT -5
60 points from BBC? How do they know it? There is no grade in that review. Metacritic estimate the points from the review. The review indeed seems quite average: 60-70 points.
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Post by drunk on May 11, 2012 5:34:34 GMT -5
The should add Kerrarg/Guardin review to their base, instead of being fortune-teller ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by garbagefiend on May 11, 2012 5:45:05 GMT -5
Sadly, I agree with the UCSD GUARDIAN review, and I love this band so much. Fortunately, I don't agree with the UCSD GUARDIAN review, and I love this band so much. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) That review was retarded, full of typos and he seemed genuinely surprised Garbage had 'developed' an electronic/technopop sound with NYKOP?? Oh no kidding?
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Post by garbagefiend on May 11, 2012 7:36:12 GMT -5
Drowned In Sound
You always get the impression that while they could never entirely decide what sort of band they wanted to be, Garbage were essentially a melodramatic pop group who the industry tried to make more heavyweight by mentioning 'Nirvana producer' lots and dressing in black. But after that (still very good) debut album, they broke free of those trappings, with each subsequent record getting slicker and more easy to digest. After four albums and a hiatus or two, Not Your Kind of People arrives.
And as you'd likely expect, they're still as confused as ever. The cover gives the impression of the band returning to their post-grunge roots, which could barely be further from the truth. The album introduces a whole bucket load of new (over) production techniques that mean there's no real flow to it. There's the now compulsory ballad that isn't much cop and the couple of belters that bolster their admirable singles back catalogue yet falsely give you hope that they might still have a brilliant album in them.
For they can still write a decent chorus and there is much to like. The way the guitar soars out of the MBV mix on 'Felt' is pretty awesome. Opener 'Automatic Systematic Habit' is as great a three-or-four-tunes-rolled-into-one indie song as I've ever heard. 'I Hate Love' has a great bleepy keyboard bit in it. And 'Man on a Wire' is a bonafide gem.
The title track and 'Beloved freak' are TERRIBLE mind.
The trouble is the question of where do they fit, exactly? In the world they were born into, pop was a tired by numbers force on its last legs and their mixture of a tune with some indie sensibilities was rather refreshing, but in the intervening years pop and indie have not only upped the game but built on many of the things that made Garbage the success they were. It is more unusual now to not see women who are afraid to be dynamic, outspoken and a bit edgy fronting an act. In fact, these days it's more edgy to not be edgy. Therefore Manson's vocals could happily sit on a modern Katy Perry or Pink record, such is the relatively faux-angst content of the lyrics: "I won't be your dirty little secret"; "I confess I've lost control / I let my guard down, I let the truth out"; "Before you kissed me and stole all my hope". More tellingly, Manson also sings on 'Sugar', "Won't someone love me?" and you fear that in 2012, by straddling the two genres once more, very few will even care.
5/10
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Post by Tornado on May 11, 2012 7:46:23 GMT -5
Drowned in Sound are on the same level of hipsterism of as pitchfork.
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Post by darkling1219 on May 11, 2012 10:07:50 GMT -5
Irish Times 4 Stars "It’s been seven years since their last studio album, but Garbage aren’t ready for the scrapheap just yet. Shirley Manson, Butch Vig, Duke Erikson and Steve Marker parted ways after their 2005 album, Bleed Like Me, to pursue solo projects, but reconvened in 2010. Rather than try and update their sound, theyve stuck to the template of their first two albums – and it works. It sounds like vintage Garbage, right down to the twisted guitars, the thunderous electro beats and the little Gothic flourishes. There’s even a stop-start bit reminiscent of Supervixen. Manson effortlessly snatches back her indie queen crown on Blood For Poppies, I Hate Love and the fabulous title track, while Vig, Erikson and Marker put all their old studio tricks to maximum use on Automatic Systematic Habit, Control, Battle In Me and Man on a Wire. Welcome back to the 1990s – weren’t they great? Download tracks: Blood for Poppies, Not Your Kind of People, Battle in Me" www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/theticket/2012/0511/1224315880957.html
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Post by luxavalanche on May 11, 2012 12:30:09 GMT -5
'They don't get it, they just don't get!' - Atari Teenage Riot, applicable to the haters.
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Post by darkling1219 on May 11, 2012 13:09:10 GMT -5
London Evening Standard 3/4 "After a seven-year absence, Garbage return with a new album which strongly suggests, at a stroke, that they have never really been away — and have not picked up any pesky new influences in the meantime. This is a band who have always considered themselves to be in the “outsider” bracket. Their pronouncements carry an angry buzz of resentment at being trapped in the mainstream. Yet they have sold tons of records, won music awards, have a charismatic singer in Shirley Manson and an influential drummer in Butch Vig. Perhaps they protest too much. The new record has immense strengths: the folk song turned electro-metal of Control; the reggae inflections of Blood for Poppies; the post-punk riffing of Man on a Wire; the sweetly-sour sexiness of Sugar. Bonus points are awarded to those who spot the references to Blondie (Big Bright World, a clue) and Gossip! (Automatic Systematic Habit and Battle In Me, another pair of clues). The title track is a slow-paced statement of identity, which suggests that anyone who likes Garbage has somehow missed the point. Oh, never mind: Garbage recycle quite well." www.thisislondon.co.uk/arts/music/cds-of-the-week-garbage-beach-house-and-gossip-7734266.html
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Post by lasirius on May 12, 2012 11:30:49 GMT -5
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