But he's right. Of course it's not fair to say to anyone: ''you're not ready for music'' , but I don't know what it's so annoying in his general point? Truth is annoying?
For me, it's kind of disappointment, because I always expected the best quality from Garbage's records, and this time I have to agree that album is mastered very loudly (loudness war) and suffers from lack of dynamic. I'm not an audiophile, just play it on my AV receivers and DVD system. It's audible, however I wouldn't blame it for ''total destruction'' of NYKoP. It's just one itchy element. I hope it won't influence on my perception of new album for some months, when I'm finally familiar with all songs and the only thing to find is a new, secret ''meaning'', new alternative sound - without good mastering It can be hard and unpleasant
Emily B. Lazar is an American Grammy nominated mastering engineer. She is the founder, president, and chief mastering engineer of The Lodge, an audio mastering facility that has operated in New York City's Greenwich Village since 1997.
Lazar has worked on over 2,000 albums with such artists as, David Bowie, Foo Fighters, Tiesto, The Subways, The Shins, Shiny Toy Guns, Lou Reed, Barbra Streisand, The Raveonettes Björk, Cults, Boy & Bear, Goldfrapp, Moby, Paul McCartney, The Naked and Famous, Garbage, Sonic Youth, Nada Surf, Sinéad O’Connor, Rza, Wu-Tang Clan, Sleigh Bells, Tiesto, Fucked Up, Chromeo, The Raveonettes, Thievery Corporation, Death Cab for Cutie, Depeche Mode, BT, The Velvet Underground, Morgan Page, Madonna (entertainer), Jedi Mind Tricks, John Mayer, Anti-Flag, Third Eye Blind, The Donnas, The All American Rejects, The Prodigy, Morrissey, Vampire Weekend, Destiny’s Child, and Vanessa Carlton.
I'm not an audio geek but this "flat and weak" sound could mean that the song lacks dynamics: the loud parts sound loud, the soft parts sound louder than expected. Basically the whole song feels loud and some sounds are buried in the mix.
Unfortunately I agree with most of the comments of this guy, I love "Control" but I can't stand the end, it's such a sonic mess, I mean it could be the kind of noise that The Raveonettes or Sonic Youth uses on their songs but I can deal and enjoy that kind of noise but the outro of "Control", it's just, I can't even describe it, I mean I almost skip that part most of the time.
"Felt" is another song I'm very dissapointed with. It's such a beautiful song full of layers and guitars and effects but most of the time I can't really enjoy it cause all that wonderful production gets lost and the final audio is not that good.
And I can describe my dissapointment with most of the songs on the album, I downloaded several versions of the album, mp3, flac, iTunes, I ripped the CD, I even thought to buy a $250 dls Bose headphones but nothing has worked for me so far.
I mean, I love the album and I can't stop listening to it but definetly the mastering could have been A LOT BETTER.
"flat and weak" are not audiophile terms, they're almost meaningless terms that are subjective and not quantifiable. if the critic meant that there wasn't much dynamic range, that might be a clearer way to say it.
i don't argue with criticisms of clipping/compression, but why pick on this album? it's true for 99% of the new releases, has been for years, and is the current standard for pop. lossy frequency compression is the norm too (mp3 etc). distasteful as it is, it's the kid-driven culture of music now, and carping about one particular release seems slightly strange.
there might be other factors contributing besides compression. if the band wanted a muddy or distorted sound, they may have done some of this intentionally. i'd hesitate to blame the mastering entirely for the sound until i had more data.
Do you guys know where "Who's gonna ride your wild horses" were recorded and mastered?? Cause I have a medium quality versión of it and still sounds amazing. You can hear every single beat and guitar and the effects.
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