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Oct 20, 2009 0:50:53 GMT -5
Post by tetherednchained on Oct 20, 2009 0:50:53 GMT -5
www.breitbart.tv/beck-plays-explosive-video-of-wh-communications-director-praising-mao/Does anyone here really believe Mao was a good person? This, on top of everything else Beck has come out with, that has been true, has to make people think. On top of all that, the Obama administration is attacking Fox news? The top rated cable news outlet. Really? Freedom of speech is OK as long as the administration agrees with you? How would you have reacted had 'W' attacked MSNBC? I can recall a President calling out a news agency at one time. It didn't end well for him at all. Can you name the President? What the hell is the Obama administration thinking? I'll tell you what they are thinking.... Fear. Pure Fear of this man and this news outlet. Good luck Obama, you will need it now.
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Beck
Oct 20, 2009 1:03:21 GMT -5
Post by tetherednchained on Oct 20, 2009 1:03:21 GMT -5
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Beck
Oct 20, 2009 1:15:13 GMT -5
Post by tetherednchained on Oct 20, 2009 1:15:13 GMT -5
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Beck
Oct 20, 2009 22:32:48 GMT -5
Post by gilamon13 on Oct 20, 2009 22:32:48 GMT -5
America/Obama nation
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Oct 23, 2009 17:21:30 GMT -5
Post by pdn on Oct 23, 2009 17:21:30 GMT -5
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Oct 23, 2009 20:59:34 GMT -5
Post by Xalazi on Oct 23, 2009 20:59:34 GMT -5
I wrote this for another forum, but I think it somewhat applies to this thread:
As far as Fox News goes, well they are idiots. Look, I understand that all networks have an agenda, and that's fine. I'm OK with that. You can't express an opinion without having some type of agenda. And all the 24 hour news networks will put on stupidity from time to time. But from Fox News just seems to go out of their way to put on stupidity. Really how many times have they aired crap like "Obama's middle name is Hussein*Wink*Wink*Nudge*Nudge*"
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Beck
Oct 23, 2009 21:43:58 GMT -5
Post by Xalazi on Oct 23, 2009 21:43:58 GMT -5
You can't possibly be naive enough to believe that every other administration in the modern era of the media hasn't done the exact same thing. And it's not just in politics, this is simple PR 101. Why do you think prepared statements exist? Why do people spend a lot of time and effort preparing for "tough questions"? The Clark Kent-Louis Lane type of idealized version of reporting doesn't exist. The media doesn't report facts, they report entertainment. They will take something that someone said and turn it into something controversial at the drop of a hat. And it's not a Left or Right thing either. Every news outlet does that. In this day and age everyone who is in the public eye have to extremely careful of how their words are used. That goes 1000x for politicians. Why? Because someone where will twist your words around. That clip that you showed is nothing more than a media communication plan.
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Beck
Oct 25, 2009 3:10:51 GMT -5
Post by tetherednchained on Oct 25, 2009 3:10:51 GMT -5
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Beck
Oct 25, 2009 4:55:04 GMT -5
Post by tetherednchained on Oct 25, 2009 4:55:04 GMT -5
You brainwashed sheep!
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Beck
Oct 25, 2009 12:51:07 GMT -5
Post by Xalazi on Oct 25, 2009 12:51:07 GMT -5
Not at all taken out of context. Take a second and actually question your sources and keep things in perspective. The masses aren't the only ones that can be brainwashed. And the "evil empire" that is the government is are not the only ones that use propaganda. Look, it's one thing to disagree with the president. Trust me, I'm not trilled with many of Obama's decisions either. Yeah, I voted for him, hindsight is usually 20/20. But implying that Obama is basically the muslim version of Stalin or Hitler is just ridiculous. There enough real facts to be critical of, there is no need to follow insane nonsensical propaganda.
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Beck
Oct 25, 2009 13:14:54 GMT -5
Post by pdn on Oct 25, 2009 13:14:54 GMT -5
Apparently you're more interested in name-calling than responding to actual arguments.
I'd appreciate an acknowlegement of Glenn Beck's hypocrisy, rather than a few lame youtube links.
And, consider the alternative as well. Don't you remember just a year ago John McCain claiming the fundamentals of our economy were strong? Unemployment here is above 13%. The Republicans have no game plan to fix the economy. No game plan to fix health care.
They certainly aren't engaging to form any kind of consensus plan.
What I think is sick is that this is just a reelection ploy for the Republicans. Let things get worse by stalling, then blame everything on the Democrats in 2010 and 2012. It's the worst kind of cynical politics.
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Beck
Oct 26, 2009 20:29:45 GMT -5
Post by tetherednchained on Oct 26, 2009 20:29:45 GMT -5
Apparently you're more interested in name-calling than responding to actual arguments. I'd appreciate an acknowlegement of Glenn Beck's hypocrisy, rather than a few lame youtube links. And, consider the alternative as well. Don't you remember just a year ago John McCain claiming the fundamentals of our economy were strong? Unemployment here is above 13%. The Republicans have no game plan to fix the economy. No game plan to fix health care. They certainly aren't engaging to form any kind of consensus plan. What I think is sick is that this is just a reelection ploy for the Republicans. Let things get worse by stalling, then blame everything on the Democrats in 2010 and 2012. It's the worst kind of cynical politics. You are right, the republicans suck too. I'll be the first to admit that. It's just that you guys will defend this administration even when its just as bad as the republicans. Don't you get it yet? It's them, the politicians (Republicans and Democrats), against us (the people) They are supposed to work for us but they, both sides, are only interested in protecting their own interests. When will everyone wake up and stop being such sheeple?
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Oct 26, 2009 20:57:12 GMT -5
Post by tetherednchained on Oct 26, 2009 20:57:12 GMT -5
Not at all taken out of context. Take a second and actually question your sources and keep things in perspective. The masses aren't the only ones that can be brainwashed. And the "evil empire" that is the government is are not the only ones that use propaganda. Look, it's one thing to disagree with the president. Trust me, I'm not trilled with many of Obama's decisions either. Yeah, I voted for him, hindsight is usually 20/20. But implying that Obama is basically the muslim version of Stalin or Hitler is just ridiculous. There enough real facts to be critical of, there is no need to follow insane nonsensical propaganda. See my reply (above) to cherrybomb. I think we agree on more than you might think. This post was originally about Obama claiming that Fox news isn't really a news network and how I thought he might regret saying that. You guys come in here and defend him even though it appears I was right about it. Apparently the other networks decided they wouldn't do the interview unless Fox news was included. Good for them. Also I don't have a problem with Obama not liking Fox news. I'm sure Bush didn't like MSNBC either but Bush never told the other news networks to not listen and to ignore MSNBC. Going after an individual news person is a whole lot different than going after a news agency. Stupid move. And yes, Cherrybomb, I acknowledge Glenn Beck's hypocrisy but to be truthful, everyone in the media is a hypocrite.
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Nov 4, 2009 21:36:05 GMT -5
Post by pdn on Nov 4, 2009 21:36:05 GMT -5
This, coming from the guy praising Glenn Beck? Give me a break. You're entire OMG MAO AAAAAHHHHH! screed was based on a misinterpretation of a joke from Anita Dunn. You're neither well-informed, nor aware of even the most basic facts about this. Of course, you don't know that, because you see it on Glenn Beck's show and swallow it as truth. Sheeple, right? crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/bogus-glenn-beck-truncates-anita-dunYou were unwilling to just do a simple Google search to find out if there was another side to the story. Sheeple, right? You love to post this alarmist bullshit and then have to reel it in when people give details and CONTEXT, which you seemingly love to avoid in order to score some sort of populist street cred. OMG JUICE TAX! AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! OMG OBAMA WILL CONTROL THE INTERNET! AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! Before you run around calling people sheeple, you really need to look up the word "hypocrite." Stop being an echo chamber for Glenn Beck and do some due dilligence before you post this utter shit. Your implication that people who are unaware of your half-truths and misinformation are somehow "sheeple" is so far beyond the pale, it's almost beneath responding to you. You have demonstrated, time and time again, that your grasp of facts is tenuous, and that you'll take cheap shots like this, rather than a reasoned, rational argument. You've demonstrated, time and time again, that you are exactly what you accuse others of being... a non-questioning automaton that will believe anything so long as it fits into your narrow worldview of being bad for Obama. I have no problems with people giving RATIONAL and FACT-BASED criticisms of Obama or the policies of the administration. Unfortunately, your criticisms are neither. Baaaaaaaaa!
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Nov 4, 2009 23:39:10 GMT -5
Post by tetherednchained on Nov 4, 2009 23:39:10 GMT -5
This, coming from the guy praising Glenn Beck? Give me a break. You're entire OMG MAO AAAAAHHHHH! screed was based on a misinterpretation of a joke from Anita Dunn. You're neither well-informed, nor aware of even the most basic facts about this. Of course, you don't know that, because you see it on Glenn Beck's show and swallow it as truth. Sheeple, right? crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/bogus-glenn-beck-truncates-anita-dunYou were unwilling to just do a simple Google search to find out if there was another side to the story. Sheeple, right? You love to post this alarmist bullshit and then have to reel it in when people give details and CONTEXT, which you seemingly love to avoid in order to score some sort of populist street cred. OMG JUICE TAX! AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! OMG OBAMA WILL CONTROL THE INTERNET! AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! Before you run around calling people sheeple, you really need to look up the word "hypocrite." Stop being an echo chamber for Glenn Beck and do some due dilligence before you post this utter shit. Your implication that people who are unaware of your half-truths and misinformation are somehow "sheeple" is so far beyond the pale, it's almost beneath responding to you. You have demonstrated, time and time again, that your grasp of facts is tenuous, and that you'll take cheap shots like this, rather than a reasoned, rational argument. You've demonstrated, time and time again, that you are exactly what you accuse others of being... a non-questioning automaton that will believe anything so long as it fits into your narrow worldview of being bad for Obama. I have no problems with people giving RATIONAL and FACT-BASED criticisms of Obama or the policies of the administration. Unfortunately, your criticisms are neither. Baaaaaaaaa! Wow! OK. Nervous much? Things not playing out quite the way you and all your brainwashed little Marxist friends planed? AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!! lol! Where and when exactly did I praise Glenn Beck? Just by bringing him up? By making a post with his name as the heading to pull you in? Face it. Beck pulled you in to this conversation and this means you have to admit that your saviour, maObama or ObaMao, isn't quite the man you thought he was. Example: Six freekin months ago!!!...!!! Edit: Here is that freekin link: garbage.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=pop&action=display&thread=9019&page=25 Look for post Reply #484 on Apr 9, 2009, 4:15pm as a place to startI have had a post about something you should really care about in the "Politics. The debate thread" for over 6 months that you refuse to touch. I remember the warrant-less wiretapping being a huge issue with the Liberals.... Oh I mean the Progressives during the Bush administration and for some reason you have stayed away from that post for over 6 months! What the hell happened? Did you personally not have an issue with the Bush warrant-less wiretapping? Was that not an issue for you? If it was an issue, why didn't you reply? If it wasn't an issue why didn't you reply? If you weren't so brainwashed you would have said something about that issue! Don't try and say you never saw it! Add on top of that the fact that he has not done much of what he said he said he would do while he was campaigning. Many of these would have been really easy, some not as easy.Stop illegal warrant-less wiretapping? Oh..... NO! Allow five days of public comment before signing bills? Oh..... NO! Allow penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009? Oh..... NO! Recognize the Armenian genocide? Oh..... NO! Don't ask don't tell reversal? Oh..... NO! Create a $3,000 tax credit for companies that add jobs? Oh..... NO! Close Gitmo? Oh..... NO! Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials? Oh..... NO! End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000? Oh..... NO! Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN? Oh..... NO! I grabbed those from PolitiFact.com To see all his comments go here: www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/personalities/barack-obama/True - 63 Mostly True - 41 Half True - 43 Barely True - 25 False - 34 Pants on Fire - 3 Also on the site: Rachel Maddow, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Keith Olbermann, Bill O'Reilly and many other pundits and most of the big names in politics are listed. Great site! Check it out. As far as the liberal spin site you posted about Anita Dunn. Quote refering to Mao and Mother Teresa: "But the two people I turn to most." Spin it all you want. Thats really messed up!
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Nov 5, 2009 0:42:30 GMT -5
Post by pdn on Nov 5, 2009 0:42:30 GMT -5
Marxist? Please. You couldn't even give a basic definition of the word. You rant and rave about being brainwashed while you're repeating the same old tired debunked line of attack I can hear on any right-wing hate radio station.
It's all the same. You guys can't keep the tenets of Marxism straight from Communism or Socialism, which you confuse all the time. It's so sad... and obvious you know not of what you speak.
I'm not nervous, I'm keenly aware of your pattern of alarmist over-reaction and poorly informed ranting when you should take more than a second or two to consider that what you're posting is usually lies, slander, or gross exaggeration.
We've seen this time and time again from you.
It's funny, though, that you don't see the gross hypocrisy in calling someone "sheeple" when you clearly believe ANYTHING someone will tell you that sheds negative light on Obama... even if it's a complete and total fabrication. You don't explore, read the opposite side or bother to check if it's true. You just repeat without thought.
That's the definition of "sheeple."
Beck didn't pull me into this conversation.
Your poorly informed, completely misguided post about what Anita Dunn said pulled me in. Sorry, I don't take kindly to bullshit... and that's exactly what you posted.
As far as being my "savior," way to overexaggerate, yet again. Thanks for proving my point. I've posted this before: NO POLITICIAN IS AN IDOL. But that doesn't fit what Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh has told you, so you ignore it. So be it.
Wow, that's kinda creepy, tnc.
For the record: No, I don't have a problem with warrantless wiretapping because IT'S BEEN LEGAL FOR 20 YEARS. Congratulations, again, at being horribly uninformed about FISA. I stayed away from it because it's a BORING SUBJECT. Not sure why you took that so personally, but the way your mind works is obviously a complete mystery to me.
Let me let you in on a little secret: I don't speak for all progressives. I know that may rock your world, but it's the truth. I don't speak for all liberals, either.
And finally, if you can bear to understand this: NOT ALL PEOPLE ON THE LEFT THINK THE SAME. I know, it's much easier for you to create some phony enemy and shriek BRAINWASHED! but the world doesn't work that way. It's not that simple.
It's only that simple to simple people, frankly.
As for Obama's campaign promises, let me be clear: No politician in the history of the United States has delivered on all of their campaign promises. Not one.
It seems you're willing to hold Obama to a different standard than those other politicians.
Why is that? How do you justify your double standard when it comes to Obama?
And please, let me know how the power of the executive can accomplish those promises without legislative approval. I'm keen to read your reasoning on that.
Sorry, but the opportunistic and alarmist rhetoric we see from you is revolting. I know you don't get that. I don't expect you to. I lost hope for you to grasp that a long time ago.
You're obviously convinced that you're right, even in the face of evidence to the contrary.
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Nov 5, 2009 1:12:46 GMT -5
Post by tetherednchained on Nov 5, 2009 1:12:46 GMT -5
Attack my beliefs all you want. Attack my intelligence all you want.
You still stand by your MAN! He has done nothing wrong at all apparently. Still the Man!!!! Even tho I point out some issues where he lied.
I recall him saying that unemployment wouldn't get over 8 or so if his stimulus passed. What happened?
He won't be the man for long. Public opinion is already slipping and he can only blame the Bush administration for so long before people start waking up and stop being sheeple.
I have freely admitted that all in government are corrupt and they only care about their own skin. That doesn't sound like a sheep to me.
Who is the sheep? Really?!
I believe in no one and question all in power while you defend, defend, defend!
Wake up!
By the way, it looks like that "sheeple" call really got under your skin.
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Nov 5, 2009 1:40:21 GMT -5
Post by tetherednchained on Nov 5, 2009 1:40:21 GMT -5
He made everyone believe in him. His whole platform while he was running was HOPE and CHANGE! He failed with that IMO. From the list I posted he could have easily done these. Allow five days of public comment before signing bills. Recognize the Armenian genocide. Don't ask don't tell reversal. Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials. Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN. While we are on the topic of "For the record". I know all about FISA too. I just remember the left making such a big stink about what Bush was doing that I found it funny that no one here had a comment when I posted it. It's cool you knew. And finally, if you can bear to understand this: NOT ALL PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT THINK THE SAME. Even though you see me as on the right I'm not on the right. I hate the right and the left equally. Maybe someday you will see the light. >:(It's only that simple to simple people, frankly. One more thing you self serving bastard! Sorry, but the rhetoric I see from you is revolting. I know you don't get that. I don't expect you to. I lost hope for you to grasp that a long time ago. Sheeple!
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Nov 6, 2009 16:19:30 GMT -5
Post by pdn on Nov 6, 2009 16:19:30 GMT -5
Of course you want to move beyond the Bush administration. Of course you want to blame our current circumstances on a man who got into office just a short time ago. I completely expect that from you.
You don't want to talk about the CAUSE of this problem because you are a coward. Plain and simple. You seek accountability only when your target is a Democrat.
You're unbelievably transparent and a hypocrite, to boot.
You shriek about Anita Dunn praising Mao... because you didn't understand what she meant and you wanted to be reactionary, rather than reasoned.
You shriek that Obama was going to control the internet... because you didn't know that the legislation had changed and you wanted to be reactionary, rather than reasoned.
You claim to hate all politicians, though your posts almost exclusively attack Democrats. Who do you think you're fooling with that, tnc?
You've proven how gullible you are by your frequently incorrect or credibility-challenged postings. Don't assume everyone else is just as gullible.
But that's what I don't understand about you, tnc. You leap onto the backs of Democrats like a bloodthirsty leper, call anyone who questions your attacks "sheeple," but are wrong... categorically and factually wrong... more than anyone else. You don't see that you are attacking people for your own fault, for your own weakness. Your zeal in reposting any wacky conspriracy theory defines your behavior as "sheeple." You don't think about or verify this stuff before you post it.
I love your sudden recognition that the left doesn't all think the same... even though you've taken me to task for things I don't even believe. "WHY DON'T YOU DEFEND OBAMA ON FISA!!!!!!!!"
What you've posted is a bunch of sycophantic, knee-jerk and alarmist bullshit and you're mad someone pointed it out. You're a hypocrite when you call anyone "sheeple" because that's the very definition of what you do. You mindlessly repeat anything you hear from Glenn Beck, hear from Rush Limbaugh, or any random and WRONG link found on the Drudge Report.
Think for yourself, tnc.
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Nov 6, 2009 22:12:01 GMT -5
Post by tetherednchained on Nov 6, 2009 22:12:01 GMT -5
Of course you want to move beyond the Bush administration. Of course you want to blame our current circumstances on a man who got into office just a short time ago. I completely expect that from you. There is plenty of blame to go around. Both dems and Repubs. I have been saying that for a long time now. Long before Obama was in office You don't want to talk about the CAUSE of this problem because you are a coward. Plain and simple. You seek accountability only when your target is a Democrat. OK, tell me the cause. I don't want to be a coward anymore. You're unbelievably transparent and a hypocrite, to boot. OK. I know. I am so what you just called me. You shriek about Anita Dunn praising Mao... because you didn't understand what she meant and you wanted to be reactionary, rather than reasoned. I do believe President Obama has surrounded himself with some very controversial people. I would list them but I'm unbelievably transparent so I feel I don't really need to. You already know who I'm talking about. I wan't to hear the other side of the story about all those people now. I'm ready to learn the truth. You shriek that Obama was going to control the internet... because you didn't know that the legislation had changed and you wanted to be reactionary, rather than reasoned. Fair enough. I will try to be more reasoned in the future. I apologize. I have been behaving badly and you are right. You claim to hate all politicians, though your posts almost exclusively attack Democrats. Who do you think you're fooling with that, tnc? OK, I guess I'm fooling no one. I'l start attacking more Repubs. You've proven how gullible you are by your frequently incorrect or credibility-challenged postings. Don't assume everyone else is just as gullible. OK, I'm the gullible one here. I'll make sure I remember that from now on. Thanks for the tip. But that's what I don't understand about you, tnc. You leap onto the backs of Democrats like a bloodthirsty leper, call anyone who questions your attacks "sheeple," but are wrong... categorically and factually wrong... more than anyone else. You don't see that you are attacking people for your own fault, for your own weakness. Your zeal in reposting any wacky conspriracy theory defines your behavior as "sheeple." You don't think about or verify this stuff before you post it. I'll stop. I'll start visiting all the same websites you visit. PM me a list so I can learn how to be a better person. I love your sudden recognition that the left doesn't all think the same... even though you've taken me to task for things I don't even believe. "WHY DON'T YOU DEFEND OBAMA ON FISA!!!!!!!!" Actually, Obama was right about FISA. That was my point. I'll be sure that no one tells me differently because I am so gullible I might believe them. What you've posted is a bunch of sycophantic, knee-jerk and alarmist bullshit and you're mad someone pointed it out. You're a hypocrite when you call anyone "sheeple" because that's the very definition of what you do. You mindlessly repeat anything you hear from Glenn Beck, hear from Rush Limbaugh, or any random and WRONG link found on the Drudge Report. I'm the sheeple. All those people you listed are very wrong because you don't believe anything they say so they have to be wrong. There is no other point of view than yours. I'll try to remember that. I'm done thinking for myself because I'm wrong all the time. Obviously! I want to be a sheeple. It's obvious to me that I have been on the wrong side this whole time. I see that now. Please forgive me. Please tell me what to think.
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