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Post by Vixen on Aug 13, 2009 9:50:52 GMT -5
I sorta love how Shirley's bad grammar and spelling on her diaries became kinda cute at times.Especially when she did that after full stops. As well as lists of things "that cheer me up" and signing off as SAM.x Ever tried pasting her diaries into Word? It's like a neon disco onscreeen by the time Spellcheck and Grammarcheck gets done with it I came to love how she added an extra letter to pretty much ever celebrity's name. Gwen Steffani, Winonna Ryder, Jennifer Anniston. Hahah, that was adorable. And yes! I have all of her journal entries in Word (I printed them all out, all 300-something pages!) and I had to tell word NOT to correct anything. But there are lotss of colors hahah. Her lists were always awesome ("I'm not happy so I'm going to make a list of things that cheer me up") and I also loved all her descriptions of how she's going to be in her old age... pink hair and a pipe, cussing, and telling her grandkids all her crazy tour stories.
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Post by acereject on Aug 13, 2009 10:06:59 GMT -5
Let's start a "Things we love from Shirley's diaries" thread!!!!! lol
I loved her bad jokes ("A penguin in a tuxedo.....") When she name-dropped a song title (Everyone loves this obv) Whenever she finished a book, went to the movies, or watched a series finale of a TV show and she would comment on. When she called Xtina a CUNT. (And it got removed from garbage.com) When she was depressed and wrote totally stream-of-consciousness stuff. Her over-use of punctuation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or irregularly capped words like "the WHite Stripes" or "SCHVEEEEEeEEEEEeEEETTT"!!! WHen she moaned about her trainer/periodontist (what actually is that)/doctor/therapist etc When she turned into Noel Coward "my heart beats in 6/8 time with joy" et al. Whenever she got really girly. If someone died and she'd quote something from literature, it always seemed so poignant. Her choice of tribute was always spot-on. When she wrote "firstly, secondly, thirdly, fourthly" and so on The totally-out-there-random one line hilariously funny entires such as "FUCKIN HELL. I RULE AT TETRIS!" When she had a hangover and wrote exactly what she'd been drinking. When she got on her high horse about things in the news. Her diaries are like a running commentary on the world circa 1999-2004.
I actually have all her BG diaries in a HUGE big thick Mushroom Records promo book, similar to the In Print books from 1995. If I'd have thought, I would've taken it with me to Edinburgh for her to see and sign but no, I didn't event think.
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Post by Vixen on Aug 13, 2009 12:51:25 GMT -5
Let's start a "Things we love from Shirley's diaries" thread!!!!! lol I loved her bad jokes ("A penguin in a tuxedo.....") When she name-dropped a song title (Everyone loves this obv) Whenever she finished a book, went to the movies, or watched a series finale of a TV show and she would comment on. When she called Xtina a CUNT. (And it got removed from garbage.com) When she was depressed and wrote totally stream-of-consciousness stuff. Her over-use of punctuation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or irregularly capped words like "the WHite Stripes" or "SCHVEEEEEeEEEEEeEEETTT"!!! WHen she moaned about her trainer/periodontist (what actually is that)/doctor/therapist etc When she turned into Noel Coward "my heart beats in 6/8 time with joy" et al. Whenever she got really girly. If someone died and she'd quote something from literature, it always seemed so poignant. Her choice of tribute was always spot-on. When she wrote "firstly, secondly, thirdly, fourthly" and so on The totally-out-there-random one line hilariously funny entires such as "FUCKIN HELL. I RULE AT TETRIS!" When she had a hangover and wrote exactly what she'd been drinking. When she got on her high horse about things in the news. Her diaries are like a running commentary on the world circa 1999-2004. I actually have all her BG diaries in a HUGE big thick Mushroom Records promo book, similar to the In Print books from 1995. If I'd have thought, I would've taken it with me to Edinburgh for her to see and sign but no, I didn't event think. Hahah you've just covered a ton of the good ones! Ooh, tell me more about the Xtina cunt thing? I adore her overuse of punctuation, along with her !!!'s, she would put lots of ........................'s. I can just see her holding down that period button, lol. A periodontist is a dentist, by the way I do love how absolutely NORMAL her diaries were/are. It's not strictly about what's going on in the studio or anything, it literally was a diary. Her talking about her period and bad skins days and taking a pee. It's so candid that you feel like you're reading your friend's LiveJournal or something. I love her freakouts over meeting celebrities Talking about how "fat" she felt after eating a ton of junk food What color she painted her toenails (and how it always fit her mood) Everything that made her cry When she'd give us exactly what she was wearing that day Not hiding the fact that she's pissed Her "girl" time with her friends like Gwen, Brody, Sophie, etc Her embarrassing moments How she was such a homebody sometimes and would stay in her hotel room by herself eating chocolate and watching movies Her tour "horror" stories like having some put perfume in her suitcase and she being so freaked out by it Her list of creepy words, like panties and pellet I bought two big binders and printed out alllll the Garbage diaries/journals and put them in one (each page has a page protector and I highlighted the things I found funny/cute) and the other binder has all the magazine articles I could find online. We're dorks.
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Post by acereject on Aug 13, 2009 13:11:54 GMT -5
Aww yours are sweet!!!
I just used regular binders with polypockets, one for each period 1995/96, 1997/98, 1999, 2000/2001, 2002. 2003 thru 2008, as well as a binder full of printed out diaries, another binder with printed out interviews from garbage.net, subhuman.net, cafemomo.com, garbageweb.net and other websites no longer in existence.
And Ive got stacks of cuttigns I bought at the time in person or off eBay. I used to buy far too many magazines just for a single page of Garbage-ness.
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Post by Vixen on Aug 13, 2009 14:22:56 GMT -5
Aww yours are sweet!!! I just used regular binders with polypockets, one for each period 1995/96, 1997/98, 1999, 2000/2001, 2002. 2003 thru 2008, as well as a binder full of printed out diaries, another binder with printed out interviews from garbage.net, subhuman.net, cafemomo.com, garbageweb.net and other websites no longer in existence. And Ive got stacks of cuttigns I bought at the time in person or off eBay. I used to buy far too many magazines just for a single page of Garbage-ness. Hahah, now THAT is adorable. I'm sure we've used waay too much ink and paper than one should, but it's Garbage, so it's worth it. Oh and sometimes I've wanted to rip out the magazine page because I didn't want to spend $6 for one page, but I never did hahah. I used to go through magazines at school when we had projects and find Garbage pictures instead of doing my project.
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Post by acereject on Aug 13, 2009 14:31:30 GMT -5
Aww yours are sweet!!! I just used regular binders with polypockets, one for each period 1995/96, 1997/98, 1999, 2000/2001, 2002. 2003 thru 2008, as well as a binder full of printed out diaries, another binder with printed out interviews from garbage.net, subhuman.net, cafemomo.com, garbageweb.net and other websites no longer in existence. And Ive got stacks of cuttigns I bought at the time in person or off eBay. I used to buy far too many magazines just for a single page of Garbage-ness. Hahah, now THAT is adorable. I'm sure we've used waay too much ink and paper than one should, but it's Garbage, so it's worth it. Oh and sometimes I've wanted to rip out the magazine page because I didn't want to spend $6 for one page, but I never did hahah. I used to go through magazines at school when we had projects and find Garbage pictures instead of doing my project. I used to rip out the pages from back issues of Q mag and NME that I missed etc from the local library. I got the Garbage review from the Dr Music festival 1998 in there, as well as the huge Cherry Lips ad. My fave one was the teaser BG pic, it just had the BeautifulGarbage rose on it with only the word "beautiful". I've got another one from a German music trade paper that has the pink feathers fade into the Version 2.0 jacket then fades again into the BG rose, and has the words "Welcome..." on it.
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Post by Vixen on Aug 13, 2009 16:01:35 GMT -5
My fave one was the teaser BG pic, it just had the BeautifulGarbage rose on it with only the word "beautiful". I've got another one from a German music trade paper that has the pink feathers fade into the Version 2.0 jacket then fades again into the BG rose, and has the words "Welcome..." on it. Ooh, those sound great! I love teasers like that. And the "Welcome" one sounds adorable.
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Post by Fated to Pretend on Aug 14, 2009 11:59:11 GMT -5
The way she'd always write "Anyways................................." All the big words that she uses that I'd always have to look up and then try and slip them into conversations for weeks after reading Calling us darklings. I can't think of anything else thats not already been covered. I LOVE THOSE BOOKS! I've been meaning to print out Shirley's diaries for ages but my printers pretty shite. I might do it at uni, never use all my printing allowance anyways
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Post by acereject on Aug 14, 2009 12:29:19 GMT -5
When she called Xtina a CUNT. (And it got removed from garbage.com) Ooh, tell me more about the Xtina cunt thing? Basically Shirley wrote: Tuesday 17th Oh life can be so glorious sometimes.Christina Aguilera's MTV Diary was just on and I was cackling with glee for what seemed like the entire duration of this choice piece of programing.What marvellous entertainment!!!! For example.....there's this so called "humble" moment when she talks without a trace of irony about giving thanks to god for all her "friends". Oh Christina! What a warm and truly TOUCHING divulgance.You're not a nasty little witch afterall but a really genuine and caring individual.The problem is: the people you are referring to just happen to be your dancers, make-up artists and hairdressers. I mean...... I may be missing something here but aren't these people on your payroll?!??!?! There's also a particularly nauseating scene where we lucky viewers get to witness something really intimate and sacred.We get to see a cheap rehash of a scene pulled straight out of "In Bed With Madonna" where we get to witness tiny Christina backstage before a show surrounded by her wonderfully sincere circle of true, lifelong "friends". They're all unselfconciously (?!) immersed in a pre-show ritual which consists of everyone performing on stage that night holding hands together and praying to GOD to help Christina's voice during the show etc etc. Oh puleeeeeeeeeease!!!! For one: Why not struggle to be a nicer person Christina? Perhaps that would bring you closer to god because rumour has it from numerous and decidedly reliable sources that you are an absolute CUNT. Secondly:I know this may come as a ghastly surprise but I'm pretty sure that the Lord GOD Almighty just might have some rather more pressing matters to attend to than to ensure you and your "friends" have a good show.This predicatbly hit MTV.com and then the tabloids and a few weeks later the entry got removed from the Garbage.com diary when Christina's management threatened to sue Shirley. Shirley told RS that she was also not allowed to speak about Christina again or face legal action. Hence why after this she generally referred to her with nicknames such as Icky Gorilla. I wonder if Shirley spoke to her at the VIVA MAC photoshoot? lol
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Post by Vixen on Aug 14, 2009 13:21:08 GMT -5
The way she'd always write "Anyways................................." All the big words that she uses that I'd always have to look up and then try and slip them into conversations for weeks after reading Calling us darklings. I can't think of anything else thats not already been covered. I LOVE THOSE BOOKS! I've been meaning to print out Shirley's diaries for ages but my printers pretty shite. I might do it at uni, never use all my printing allowance anyways Oh I totally know what you mean about the big words! Girl has a fantastic vocabulary and she tends to use them so elegantly. Oh and I love that she calls us darklings too. That's such a perfect word, for me anyway. You should do it at uni! And were you talking about my books? If so, then thank you! Ooh, tell me more about the Xtina cunt thing? Basically Shirley wrote: Tuesday 17th Oh life can be so glorious sometimes.Christina Aguilera's MTV Diary was just on and I was cackling with glee for what seemed like the entire duration of this choice piece of programing.What marvellous entertainment!!!! For example.....there's this so called "humble" moment when she talks without a trace of irony about giving thanks to god for all her "friends". Oh Christina! What a warm and truly TOUCHING divulgance.You're not a nasty little witch afterall but a really genuine and caring individual.The problem is: the people you are referring to just happen to be your dancers, make-up artists and hairdressers. I mean...... I may be missing something here but aren't these people on your payroll?!??!?! There's also a particularly nauseating scene where we lucky viewers get to witness something really intimate and sacred.We get to see a cheap rehash of a scene pulled straight out of "In Bed With Madonna" where we get to witness tiny Christina backstage before a show surrounded by her wonderfully sincere circle of true, lifelong "friends". They're all unselfconciously (?!) immersed in a pre-show ritual which consists of everyone performing on stage that night holding hands together and praying to GOD to help Christina's voice during the show etc etc. Oh puleeeeeeeeeease!!!! For one: Why not struggle to be a nicer person Christina? Perhaps that would bring you closer to god because rumour has it from numerous and decidedly reliable sources that you are an absolute CUNT. Secondly:I know this may come as a ghastly surprise but I'm pretty sure that the Lord GOD Almighty just might have some rather more pressing matters to attend to than to ensure you and your "friends" have a good show.This predicatbly hit MTV.com and then the tabloids and a few weeks later the entry got removed from the Garbage.com diary when Christina's management threatened to sue Shirley. Shirley told RS that she was also not allowed to speak about Christina again or face legal action. Hence why after this she generally referred to her with nicknames such as Icky Gorilla. I wonder if Shirley spoke to her at the VIVA MAC photoshoot? lol Oh my god, that's glorious! She is so fiesty lol. You go girl. That was written in 2001, yes? I am looking through the diaries and it seems that Tuesday the 17th is missing from April of 2001. Were there any other blogs removed?
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Post by acereject on Aug 14, 2009 13:32:41 GMT -5
I've only ever noticed that one. Although, as Shirley was one of the first celebrity bloggers, her writings were often reproduced in tabloids and then exaggerated or spun, which led to the copyright notice being posted on Garbage.com. There was a lot of reprints in the Daily Record in Scotland (they are still at it) where they twisted Shirley's words. Two of the times being the time they wrote Shirley Wants To Kill Herself in 2000, and then when they twisted a story that Shirley ruined a Goodbye Mr. Mackenzie reunion for Hogmanay 2002. If you want a complete unedited reproduction of the studio diaries, plus the tour diaries from Version 2.0 and BG go to www.garbage2.com. It's sort-of defunct now but it still has all the old diaries as they were posted plus a few extra things such as two postings from Shirley on Garbage.com at New Year 1999/2000.
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Post by Vixen on Aug 14, 2009 19:22:50 GMT -5
I've only ever noticed that one. Although, as Shirley was one of the first celebrity bloggers, her writings were often reproduced in tabloids and then exaggerated or spun, which led to the copyright notice being posted on Garbage.com. There was a lot of reprints in the Daily Record in Scotland (they are still at it) where they twisted Shirley's words. Two of the times being the time they wrote Shirley Wants To Kill Herself in 2000, and then when they twisted a story that Shirley ruined a Goodbye Mr. Mackenzie reunion for Hogmanay 2002. If you want a complete unedited reproduction of the studio diaries, plus the tour diaries from Version 2.0 and BG go to www.garbage2.com. It's sort-of defunct now but it still has all the old diaries as they were posted plus a few extra things such as two postings from Shirley on Garbage.com at New Year 1999/2000. Thank you SOOOOOOO much for that link, Paul!!! Not only were the first 10 or so links ones I had never seen before (the journals from 1999 and early 2000) but Garbage.com also missed an entire week (one entry in October 2001) and they screwed up an Oct. 2001 entry and put it in Oct. 2002! I now have printed all the ones I didn't have from that website. Thumbs up. These I found particularly intriguing... "Felt desperately horny today for some reason. Upon discussing this fact at length with my girlfriend, she suggested I check out her favorite site on the Web--an online store that specializes in vibrators of all shapes and sizes. The perfect place for a lonely and sexually starved girl on the road. Better than cheating on the husband, I guess. Check it out! There's something there for everyone: www.goodvibes.com " "Have to dissuade Cindy from shoving $2,000 worth of earrings onto her credit card. She is secretly relived that I am such a tightfisted bully. Pop into Urban Outfitters on the way back to the hotel and buy the most incredible sparkly G-strings. Fuck spending a fortune at some froufrou store in Beverly Hills on beautiful panties that look absolutely dismal after one wash. Go lo-fi and practical! God bless the teen stores. Much later we go out to dine at Scoozi with the whole posse and get gloriously, steaming drunk. Return to the hotel and show the entire bar staff my new undies. The general consensus is that they rock! P.S. If you are into lingerie of a less-than-subtle kind, checkout www.trashy.com. I am so all about it! " Shirley Ann Manson, you are a saucy lady! hahah Additionally, I about cried at this: "Friday 3rd Today is supposed to be a "day off" but it's 2pm and we've already driven over from South Carolina, had a meeting with our business manager and now we're all sitting in Ocean Way Studios here in Nashville getting ready to record a track for the up and coming Ramones Tribute Record. Anyway......it's all very swanky here in this studio.They even have their own chef which seems spectacularly glamourous to me!!! Saturday 4th Played a big festival here in Nashville this afternoon and I was delighted to discover that No Doubt were playing too.The last time Garbage and No Doubt were on a bill together was almost 7 years ago at the KROQ Weenie Roast when we were all new kids on the block and no one had ever heard of us. Took up the invitation to visit Ms Stefani on her bus before the show....and we pissed ourselves laughing at our 7 year good fortune and swapped a few road stories of ill health as lead singers are want to do.....but she was looking absolutely radiant and totally back on form. I'm delighted to see her and the band do so well with "Rock Steady".They're sticking quite a few royal fingers up the asses of those who had them written off after "The Return of Saturn". " Not only is this another No Doubt/Garbage show that I missed, but it was in my hometown!!! Arghh... but at least Shirley liked Ocean Way, I've done some recording there. ;D
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Post by acereject on Aug 14, 2009 20:52:21 GMT -5
The news archives on garbage2.com are good for recalling old events. I refer back to it every now and again. it was a really good site back in the Version 2.0 days. Another good defunct site (especially for debut era news archives and Steve's debut tour blog) is Cafemomo.com which can only be accessed through www.archive.org Bit of trivia: Butch's wife Beth sings backing vocals on IJWHSTD. She also gave Nelly Furtado her first solo record deal.
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Post by Crashing Silent on Aug 15, 2009 0:37:42 GMT -5
Did she sing backings on Space Can Come Through Anyone as well??
Love reading all the old diary entries and answers to fan emails. Cracks me up, most of em anyways.
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Post by acereject on Aug 15, 2009 7:39:04 GMT -5
Did she sing backings on Space Can Come Through Anyone as well?? No... why did you think that???
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Post by Crashing Silent on Aug 16, 2009 3:25:58 GMT -5
Thought I read it somewhere but wasn't 100% sure so I asked.
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Post by Crashing Silent on Sept 8, 2009 7:32:59 GMT -5
Courtney Love's started tweeting at that account on Twitter. Although that doesn't really mean anything.
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Post by SophiesInsanity on Sept 18, 2009 14:11:57 GMT -5
Yeah, this is something that annoys me too. Because although I don't think Shirley would be the tweeting type surely a fake would try keeping up the tweeting a little more often dontcha think. I mean fakes are normally run by crazy fans that get some thrills out of pretending to be their idols, so they would use the latest Shirley news and comment about it. Either I guess it's not crazily important because we know her facebook is real, and the twitter has not been updated much. As for Courtney Love tweeting @ her, I love Courtney don't get me wrong, Hole is one of my fav bands but her tweeting drived me so nuts I had to unfollow her. Like 10 consecutive tweets in the space of 5 mins. And Vixen, I love the fact you printed out all the studio diaries it's so cute and awesome. I was reading my way through them the other day and laughing at the Bush jokes so much. Told my parents and friends them and they found them funny too.
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